recovering from injury

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Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans

I'd say referring to a woman as 'it' was even more dis-considering (sic), but ignore me, English is just my native language.

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Oups, sorry for that slip. I'll correct it ASAP. (notice that I only slipped once out of the two occasions).

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Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans

It's quite a common turn of phrase in the UK.

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I can vouch for that. When I was there back in the nineties, I remember Tesco had a special on where you get two for the price of one.

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Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans

I'd say referring to a woman as 'it' was even more dis-considering (sic), but ignore me, English is just my native language.

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Not Geordie? :p

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Originally Posted by Sonic

"I'm still flat. But I'm flat with my toes lifting."

I took that to mean. I can still be as fast as I was before but I have to think to make it happen whereas before it was automatic.

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I thought it meant that he was making himself go flat out, but part of him was trying to say, no, not that flat out, too much danger, as in just losing the edge, where now you worry about what it really is like to hit a tree, rather than just dismissing the possibility that it could happen to me......

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Originally Posted by Mark

Not Geordie? :p

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Ah divven't knarr what youse are on aboot marra.

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Originally Posted by markabilly

I thought it meant that he was making himself go flat out, but part of him was trying to say, no, not that flat out, too much danger, as in just losing the edge, where now you worry about what it really is like to hit a tree, rather than just dismissing the possibility that it could happen to me......

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I've heard drivers say that their 'leg got shorter' as they approached a corner. Meaning that although they were trying to take it flat, something in their subconcrious was causing them to lift slightly.

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Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans

I've heard drivers say that their 'leg got shorter' as they approached a corner. Meaning that although they were trying to take it flat, something in their subconcrious was causing them to lift slightly.

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yeah when i was young, i never had that feeling, ever (and again i hate to admit it, the danger was part of the thrill) but you see other things, people being wasted doing something they hated with no other choice, or an abrupt wake up call to reality----it starts to change things.

i still love being in the zone, but.....

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Originally Posted by ioan

I don't think that we can compare an accident where the consequences are rather aesthetic with one where the consequences mean that the driver loses his acuity and reflexes due to his brain being damaged.

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Good point, I suppose most of the cases that spring to my mind of a driver being not quite what they once were after an accident have involved brain injury, Wendlinger, Roberto Guerrero in IndyCar are two that spring to mind.

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Originally Posted by markabilly

I thought it meant that he was making himself go flat out, but part of him was trying to say, no, not that flat out, too much danger, as in just losing the edge, where now you worry about what it really is like to hit a tree, rather than just dismissing the possibility that it could happen to me......

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You put it much better than I did but that was also my impression. :)

When I learned of the severity of the injury, I as always in these cases, thought of Neil Bonnett, and don't think Massa will race again.

Neil was a NASCAR driver, one of the original "Alabama Gang". Neil incurred a major head injury and stayed out of racing for many years, doing quite well with commentaries, product endorsements, and even had his own successful tv show. But Neil had to get back in the car and did make a return including an airborne, flipover wreck that he crawled out of, waving to the crowd. People liked Neil, a very pleasent man. A few races later, Neil went into a wall that by NASCAR standards was nothing much more than a mere tap. we waited, but he never came out of the car alive. His brain had taken one sudden stop too many and had given up.

Everyone's limit is different and the only way to find the limit is to exceed it. I hope Massa retires and stays out of race cars.