No Juam Montoya thread yet?

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Originally Posted by Sparky1329

And yet you're posting in this forum. :rolleyes:

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I don't think I'm alone in my thoughts.... I enjoy racing, all racing. When NASCAR is on I usually watch it. But when I see some of the behind the scenes manipulation I get exasperated. Sunshine is the best antiseptic. Show me a list of the speeds. The data is there but it is being kept secret for some reason.
This is interseting......
http://www.scenedaily.com/news/artic..._properly.html
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...d-the-solution
http://hamptonroads.com/2009/07/time-nascar-show-itself

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Originally Posted by Sparky1329

And yet you're posting in this forum. :rolleyes:

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It's amazing to see what rats come out of the woodwork when something of this nature happens. They'll go away soon.

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Originally Posted by Lee Roy

It's amazing to see what rats come out of the woodwork when something of this nature happens. They'll go away soon.

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Do you mean when NASCAR shows their "rules" are well, actually "guidelines". You're right, pretty soom all of the racing fans will go away leaving the NASCAR fans the sport to themselves.
It's not rocket science. If you're honest there is nothing to fear by publishing the pit road speeds for all cars on all pit stops. Unless it might get in the way of a good race.

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Originally Posted by PA Rick

Do you mean when NASCAR shows their "rules" are well, actually "guidelines". You're right, pretty soom all of the racing fans will go away leaving the NASCAR fans the sport to themselves.
It's not rocket science. If you're honest there is nothing to fear by publishing the pit road speeds for all cars on all pit stops. Unless it might get in the way of a good race.

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Don't you realize that is is just another one of nascar's conspiracy thingies. Anytime Nascar sees a driver on the verge of winning that isn't on their list of favorites they come up with a way of taking the win away from the driver. You don't think they would penalize a jr or Jeff Gordon, do you. :) and surely not a Jimmie Johnson.

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Originally Posted by dj4monie

Nobody ever confused intelligence with the NASCAR fan base and OH can I give examples...

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And you'd never confuse me with someone who wouldn't tell you to go #$%@ yourself.

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Originally Posted by Lee Roy

And you'd never confuse me with someone who wouldn't tell you to go #$%@ yourself.

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LOL, NeckCAR needs COLOR, Juan is color, a brown man.

I've always said by year 3 he would be winning on the ovals to further prove he can get it done in a oval dominated series. If he makes the Chase in year 3 I should beat up more on NASCAR in Las Vegas ($$$). My shot was called along with Toyota upping the ante in NASCAR and all can be found on Speed TV's Forums... (same screen name)

I don't have to clap like a seal like most NASCAR fans, I enjoy certain races and I expect high quality racing, along with sensible rule enforcement. Both constantly lacking in NASCAR.

Montoya could have one, but I give it up to Hamlin who had the fastest car all day.

montoya is a good driver and is having a good year. He is probably one of the top 10 best this year.

He is having a great year, the change to Chevy seems to have done him the world of good.

Didn't like the ESPN pit reporter after yesterdays race, asking why Kahne had come over to have "serious words" with Juan when Kahne had only apologised for getting into him on the last restart. Always trying to brew a feud that never exists.

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Originally Posted by dj4monie

NeckCAR

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Mr. Moderator, is this kind of thing allowed here?

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Originally Posted by PA Rick

To put it in perspective, Juan got to the next timing loop ,0031 early once and .0017 the other time. He was speeding by 3.3 inches the first time and 1.8 inches the second time. I know the output is precice but how accurate and repeatable are the transponders?

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You Say NASCAR doesn't release the times and then you publish these times. Where did you get them? Out of your EAR?

He was speeding. The limit is 55. They give you 5 for a fudge factor, and he was OUTSIDE of that. He wasn't 3.3 inches or 1.8...do the calculation from 55mph.

The system is the same for all drivers. All the transponders have to be mounted the same way in the same location and at 55 or 60 mph, the timing would be accurate to a thousandth of second or so.

Why do you insist that NASCAR jobbed JPM? You think him winning the Brickyard 400 wouldn't be a better story and marketing bonaza for NASCAR? CAn you say 50 million hispanics would be jacked by this? You think NASCAR doesn't want those people as fans? Good lord man....

JPM was speeding. Period. It isn't NASCAR's job to tell the teams what ratios to run and the RPM reading that will give them 55mph in second gear. If you speed, you are punished. We have had this out and yet you still think there is some conspiracy.

I am one to rip NASCAR when they screw up, and if they had dopes up and down pit lane with stop watches I would BBQ them, but the timing loops and scoring computer is not biased, and all the teams have access to those times. They do NOT have them in real time, and maybe they should have that scoring monitor on the media feed like the scoring computer, but you can be assured NASCAR wouldn't be able to hide anyone speeding on pitlane.

NASCAR just refuses to give the teams any tools that help them stay in the speed limit. THAT too is fair...it isn't the law's job to keep you within it, it is their job to catch you if you break the law. THAT my friend is the reality many refuse to grasp.

AS for JPM at Pocono, I wanted him to win, and it was a cheap attempt by ESPN to misunderstand what Kasey was doing there. Kasey was apologizing and JPM acknowledged that on the MRN broadcast. Not sure what he said on ESPN but I suppose he could be annoyed with the 9 giving him that shove, but I don't think anyone had anything for Hamlin......