End of the discussion. Lewis. is not another SCHUMI

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25th May 2009, 18:44
ioan

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Originally Posted by henners88

Me...... I think the going rate is 3 world championships to make a legend these days isn't it?

A legend is more than just that.
25th May 2009, 18:57
DexDexter

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Originally Posted by race_director

I do not think i have ever come across a single instance when MS went and cried to the press even in 2005 or before that saying that the team and the car were never good. he always took the responsibility that it was his job to try to finish ahead regardless of what car he was driving. That's the stuff, what champions are made of. Champions do not go and cry or sit on there father's lap when they have a bad race, They move on.

On the contrary, champions are to an extent the biggest moaners, they moan and moan until they get what they want in the team. Prost certainly was like that, some say Alonso is that way as well...
25th May 2009, 22:07
race_director

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

On the contrary, champions are to an extent the biggest moaners, they moan and moan until they get what they want in the team. Prost certainly was like that, some say Alonso is that way as well...

I kinda agree with you over here. He tried to be champion in 2007 by crying over the team not supporting issue. last year he cried and won on Stewards punishing him more issue.
25th May 2009, 22:11
Knock-on

I have always said he should never be compared to Schumacher no matter how much you dislike him :p :

McLaren will be back on their game at Silverstone and Lewis will be troubleing the top again. Then you can get back to moaning about him always being at the top in a good car :rolleyes:

People need to learn that that there is only comparrisons. Your team mate.

Lets drag this thread up in 5 years time ;)
25th May 2009, 22:31
71minus2

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Originally Posted by ioan

That's arguable.

Why doesn't that surprise me? You are the only forum member i know that could start an argument in an empty house.
25th May 2009, 23:00
GridGirl

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Originally Posted by race_director

I kinda agree with you over here. He tried to be champion in 2007 by crying over the team not supporting issue. last year he cried and won on Stewards punishing him more issue.

I would be intersted to know the percentage of races that Schumacher won where you can directly link having the help of a team mate as a contributing factor towards achieving those wins. I suspect it would be quite subjective and pretty hard to calculate though.

MS was a great driver but there has definately been a move away from team tactics which we saw in previous years. It's much harder and a better indiator of talent when it's every man for themselves so to speak. If your beating your team mate you should be relatively happy. However drivers can't rest on their laurels because sooner or later thier team will get someone most probably cheaper and a few years younger that might just be that little bit faster. Hell they might even be a bit luckier which can be incredibly helpful in F1.
26th May 2009, 00:08
wedge

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Originally Posted by 71minus2

Why doesn't that surprise me? You are the only forum member i know that could start an argument in an empty house.

True, but I let Ioan off the hook this time round since he was referring to the Prost vs. Senna argument.

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

On the contrary, champions are to an extent the biggest moaners, they moan and moan until they get what they want in the team. Prost certainly was like that, some say Alonso is that way as well...

Which is probably the only reason why I like Lewis as McLaren driver. He's moaning but its emotively half-arsed without making him look bad by throwing his toys out and making the team look bad.
26th May 2009, 02:55
mstillhere

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Originally Posted by race_director

I do not think i have ever come across a single instance when MS went and cried to the press even in 2005 or before that saying that the team and the car were never good. he always took the responsibility that it was his job to try to finish ahead regardless of what car he was driving. That's the stuff, what champions are made of. Champions do not go and cry or sit on there father's lap when they have a bad race, They move on.

Totally true
26th May 2009, 02:57
mstillhere

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Originally Posted by henners88

Me...... I think the going rate is 3 world championships to make a legend these days isn't it? Plus I don't think he can be referred to as 'Golden Lewis' after his behaviour earlier in the season thank you very much... Although being a cheat is one step closer to emulating Schumacher :p

Anyway thats history, and its still extremely early in his career to be assuming he won't go on the be one of the greats... Schumacher achieved an amazing amount of race wins and WDC's but does he have the same level of respect as some of his predecessors? Probably not... He's the best there has been, but he's certainly not the greatest....

Right, I'm off to polish my Lotus.. :s mokin:

Yes he is. What I can certanly tell you is that Lewis is never going to achieve, cheating or not, what MS has achieved.
26th May 2009, 03:13
Valve Bounce

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Originally Posted by 71minus2

Why doesn't that surprise me? You are the only forum member i know that could start an argument in an empty house.

........................under a metre of wet concrete. :p :

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