Richard Branson (Virgin) to save Honda together with Adrian Reynard?

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18th February 2009, 17:35
Bagwan

Horses mouth ?
http://www.football.virginmedia.com/...561686,00.html
The way Senna talks details sounds like it's a done deal .
18th February 2009, 19:00
ioan

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

I think I would like to see what Fry can do with a blank sheet before he's thrown to the wolves.

4 seasons were more than enough to prove he's a jerk.
18th February 2009, 22:27
Malbec

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

It looks to me that Fry has been a wolf in sheep's clothing , as it appears he's been scuttling other efforts in favour of his own .

He's been vetting suitors for Honda , if true , in a very disingenuous way .

That doesn't do a lot positive for your reputation , and if I was in charge of Honda , I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot snail fork .

Wasn't it Fry who was reported to have met with Stepney and Coughlan ?
He seems a weasel to me .

I think its the opposite. People seem to think that Honda is a lot more attractive than it really is. Whoever takes the team over immediately has to spend money decommissioning all the new toys Honda bought over the past two to three years that the new FOTA-agreed cost cutting regulations have made illegal. And thats before any car gets to turn a wheel.

Thats why no other significant name has entered the picture. If other blue chip companies were on the horizon their names would have been leaked by now. David Richards explained exactly why he didn't want to buy Honda and his logic was entirely sound.

If Virgin really are interested I suspect they've put in a very low offer to a desperate Honda. Either way I don't see how F1 fits into Branson's portofolio, he could end up losing a lot of money very quickly and thats just not his style.
18th February 2009, 22:28
Malbec

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Originally Posted by ioan

4 seasons were more than enough to prove he's a jerk.

How about the seasons before that when he turned BAR round from back of the grid to 2nd in the WCC in 2004? He was responsible for that too.
18th February 2009, 22:33
BDunnell

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Originally Posted by Dylan H

I think its the opposite. People seem to think that Honda is a lot more attractive than it really is. Whoever takes the team over immediately has to spend money decommissioning all the new toys Honda bought over the past two to three years that the new FOTA-agreed cost cutting regulations have made illegal. And thats before any car gets to turn a wheel.

Thats why no other significant name has entered the picture. If other blue chip companies were on the horizon their names would have been leaked by now. David Richards explained exactly why he didn't want to buy Honda and his logic was entirely sound.

If Virgin really are interested I suspect they've put in a very low offer to a desperate Honda. Either way I don't see how F1 fits into Branson's portofolio, he could end up losing a lot of money very quickly and thats just not his style.

All very good points. I will still be extremely surprised if a Virgin-sponsored 'Honda' (or whatever) team is on the 2009 grid.
18th February 2009, 23:08
Oli_M

This does indeed sound promising. Am I correct in thinking this is the first time Honda have actually announced/confirmed rumors of a name of a potential buyer? If so does that in itself say something?!?
18th February 2009, 23:14
ioan

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Originally Posted by Dylan H

How about the seasons before that when he turned BAR round from back of the grid to 2nd in the WCC in 2004? He was responsible for that too.

No he wasn't. Dave Richards was responsible for that one.
18th February 2009, 23:20
Malbec

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Originally Posted by ioan

No he wasn't. Dave Richards was responsible for that one.

Actually he was. Dave Richards was the figurehead but he was also running Prodrive proper and WRC's commercial rights at the same time. The hands on management was done by Nick Fry, he was merely promoted when Richards left and Prodrive withdrew.
18th February 2009, 23:22
BDunnell

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Originally Posted by ioan

No he wasn't. Dave Richards was responsible for that one.

How is it possible to say that one senior person amongst those running the team at the time was responsible for that success, while another wasn't? I would have thought it a team effort.
19th February 2009, 02:35
Valve Bounce

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

How is it possible to say that one senior person amongst those running the team at the time was responsible for that success, while another wasn't? I would have thought it a team effort.

You're all wrong - it was Bunsen whose magnificent driving was responsible. :p :

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