My cousin won't marry me - I think I'll go kill some zionists

Octopus has eight hands, I know she (octopus) is capable of handling various jobs. ;)

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Originally Posted by Rani

The terrorist is from east Jerusalem, where the population is almost all muslim. He didn't just run his car randomly at the nearest street, but looked for a crowded place with many soldiers and civilians. You clearly lack knowledge on the subject and your cynicism ("slightly hard to miss") doesn't make you seem any more knowledgeable.

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Well thanks for the patronisation. Of course he wanted to kill people, he looked for a busy street, clearly you're warped in your own victim world and everybody is out to get you, if I had done the same and drove into a group of black people, would that be racist or just a coincidence?

If it had been a Jew that drove into muslims for the same reason, i'm sure we would have heard nothing about it. Did he film a video stating his intentions against the Israeli state? No, he was some angry psycho that drove into a crowd.

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Originally Posted by Eki

Now that yous asked for it, it's not even hard to do, when you think about that the Columbine school shooters were his heroes:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,426210,00.html

"Clips from the 1999 Columbine school shootings in Colorado were listed among his favorite videos."

Kids here idolize everything American, even the scumbags. I know, I used to be the same when I was a kid. I even thought Ronald Reagan was a good guy. Then I grew up.

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Poor Finnishers! Now we know that all the sleaze of the world comes from America and most of it is intentionally aimed at Finland.

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Originally Posted by Drew

Well thanks for the patronisation. Of course he wanted to kill people, he looked for a busy street, clearly you're warped in your own victim world and everybody is out to get you, if I had done the same and drove into a group of black people, would that be racist or just a coincidence?

If it had been a Jew that drove into muslims for the same reason, i'm sure we would have heard nothing about it. Did he film a video stating his intentions against the Israeli state? No, he was some angry psycho that drove into a crowd.

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Lets look at the facts:
1. The person is affiliated with Hamas (a terrorist organization).
2. Three terrorists have come from his area of Jerusalem over the last six months or so (a shooter and two who used bulldozers to drive over buses)
3. He lives in East Jerusalem, an area of a quarter million muslims. Had he randomly selected a street around his house, he would've killed muslims. The man had no license, yet he took the car to a mainly jew area (a place called IDF square, probably just a coincedance :rolleyes: ) ON PURPOSE.

You know what? Forget it.
Why not say it was just a road accident where he accidentally ran over 17 people all the while reversing to hurt more.

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Originally Posted by Rani

Lets look at the facts:
1. The person is affiliated with Hamas (a terrorist organization).
2. Three terrorists have come from his area of Jerusalem over the last six months or so (a shooter and two who used bulldozers to drive over buses)
3. He lives in East Jerusalem, an area of a quarter million muslims. Had he randomly selected a street around his house, he would've killed muslims. The man had no license, yet he took the car to a mainly jew area (a place called IDF square, probably just a coincedance :rolleyes: ) ON PURPOSE.

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Yes, let's look at the facts. Nowhere does it say anybody died, "Terror attack in Jerusalem, 17 WOUNDED" Nowhere does it say that he was a member of Hamas. And if you don't have a license and don't know how to drive well, wouldn't you be more likely to have a crash?

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Originally Posted by Drew

Yes, let's look at the facts. Nowhere does it say anybody died, "Terror attack in Jerusalem, 17 WOUNDED" Nowhere does it say that he was a member of Hamas. And if you don't have a license and don't know how to drive well, wouldn't you be more likely to have a crash?

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It doesn't say he was affiliated because both articles were published right after the attack. It has since become public.


If you don't have many hours flying experience and don't know how to fly well you would probably be more likely to crash a plane. Or four. You could also happen to be near the Pentagon. Or the WTC.

I'd side with you had he injured one or two, but he repeatedy drove onto crowds.
I urge you to read eyewitness reports and still claim this was an 'innocent' accident.

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Originally Posted by Rani

It doesn't say he was affiliated because both articles were published right after the attack. It has since become public.


If you don't have many hours flying experience and don't know how to fly well you would probably be more likely to crash a plane. Or four. You could also happen to be near the Pentagon. Or the WTC.

I'd side with you had he injured one or two, but he repeatedy drove onto crowds.
I urge you to read eyewitness reports and still claim this was an 'innocent' accident.

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I don't doubt that he drove into the croud on purpose intended to hurt or kill people, what I do doubt are the whole terrorism claims behind it. People go crazy and do stupid things (in this case extemely crazy and extremely stupid things) This could have happened anywhere, Jerusalem or the Faroe Islands.

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Originally Posted by Rani

Why not keep it a Jewish Zionist state and those who aren't happy about it could move elsewhere?

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Who will be handling the government, the prime minister confirmed resignation :)

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Originally Posted by Rani

I believe there is a solution to the conflict. Not today, not tomorrow, but someday. If peace was achievable with Egypt and Jordan, someday it will be possible with Syria, Lebanon and the Palestinian authority.

What do you mean 'stiff-necked' people and people of 'wild donkeys'?

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I find this really really ironic and especially coming from an Israeli.

The "stiff necked" people are the Israellis themselves:
"I have seen these people", (the Israellites) the LORD said to Moses, "and they are a stiff-necked people." - Shemot 32:9

Both Jewish and traditions consider Ishmael as the ancestor of Arab people:
The angel of the LORD also said to her: You are now with child and you will have a son. You shall name him Ishmael, for the LORD has heard of your misery. He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers. - Bere 16:11-12

Do they not teach the Torah in schools in Israel? How strange.

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Originally Posted by Rani

Why not keep it a Jewish Zionist state and those who aren't happy about it could move elsewhere?

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Same reason. The Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock are number 3 (i think) on the list of holy sites in Islam. Telling Islamic people to leave would be nigh on impossible.

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Originally Posted by Rollo

I find this really really ironic and especially coming from an Israeli.

The "stiff necked" people are the Israellis themselves:
"I have seen these people", (the Israellites) the LORD said to Moses, "and they are a stiff-necked people." - Shemot 32:9

Both Jewish and traditions consider Ishmael as the ancestor of Arab people:
The angel of the LORD also said to her: You are now with child and you will have a son. You shall name him Ishmael, for the LORD has heard of your misery. He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers. - Bere 16:11-12

Do they not teach the Torah in schools in Israel? How strange.



Same reason. The Al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock are number 3 (i think) on the list of holy sites in Islam. Telling Islamic people to leave would be nigh on impossible.

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First of all, they do teach the Torah in schools. I studied it for 12 years. The reason I didn't get it is because I'm used to read it in the language in which it was written. As you know the original is always better :p

I know about the importance of the al-Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock. I've even been on a class trip to both. My comment was just a cynical reply to Eki's suggestion of a new world order. Of course Muslims should have access to these two important sites.