What Citroen & Ford have that Subaru don't

1. Ditch the Boxer
2. Use Reiger as Østberg

Voila; 50 more hp and a drivable car = Petter will win again !

Seems not as "easy" to drive as the Focus or C4, and that same thing seems with the SX4, a bit nervous you could say. Besides it seems tome too that lacks low end power (when driving away from a slow corner).
Completely clueless on what could it be the cause tough.

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Originally Posted by Donney

No, I don't, I remember the constant complaining about the poor handling but the "snake" does not ring any bell, thanks!!! :up:

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From the tv series 'engineering the world rally" Some kind of friction in the suspension. They thought they sorted it out by the end of the year, but didn't seem to be the case. It was not the drivers who talks about it, but the Prodrive engineers. Funny thing is how they show Stephan Sarrazin dream of driving wrc team being shattered. But I thought no leave him with his circuit racing career where he could be more successful.

Thinking about it, didn't they blame the steering rack overheating while on the stages, causing the car to handle as it did?

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Originally Posted by playmo

Seems not as "easy" to drive as the Focus or C4, and that same thing seems with the SX4, a bit nervous you could say. Besides it seems tome too that lacks low end power (when driving away from a slow corner).
Completely clueless on what could it be the cause tough.

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I agree, it looks very slow out of corners - which also suits what Petter said that they were competetive on fast sections, but lost a lot on twisty sections/stages.

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Originally Posted by DonJippo

When have we heard a non works Subaru driver complaining this same issue?

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This was actually on both petters car and to some extent Atkos. Prodrive tried saving weight by redusing welds or something. Atkos car was welded a bit better and Petter also pushed harder and the welds startet cracking up. At least the chassi got wery loose after a bit of use. Probably not the proudest moment for Prodrive

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Originally Posted by Gard

This was actually on both petters car and to some extent Atkos. Prodrive tried saving weight by redusing welds or something. Atkos car was welded a bit better and Petter also pushed harder and the welds startet cracking up. At least the chassi got wery loose after a bit of use. Probably not the proudest moment for Prodrive

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Petter got new chassis when Atko got rebuild ones hence more welding, but only part of the problem, also gearbox (center diff) and damper related.

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I agree, it looks very slow out of corners - which also suits what Petter said that they were competetive on fast sections, but lost a lot on twisty sections/stages.

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I also agree.

I forgot where I saw the footage but one of the testing video.... The car approach one corner with decent speed and slows down entering the corner. But nothing happens afterward! I mean the car just kinda coast out of the corner rather than accelerate out of the corner. You may be able to relate the lack of power out of corner to handling (not being able to transfer engine power to the wheel correctly) but Subaru must've lost lots of time exiting corners.

What does Citroen have that Ford and Subaru doesn't? Easy: Loeb!

Two problems here.The engine location(slow to turn) and dambers.
Snake effect comes then driver reacts quicker than center diff.