Tyre Warmers

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Originally Posted by ioan

I never posted the above quote! :mad:
You should learn to quote properly. :rolleyes:

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What he implied in that post was that other series have no problems with the lack of tyre warmers, so why should there be more crashes, and hence, be more dangerous than having some metal tube flapping in the breeze?

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

What he implied in that post was that other series have no problems with the lack of tyre warmers, so why should there be more crashes, and hence, be more dangerous than having some metal tube flapping in the breeze?

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See ioan - others understand what is being postulated. Is it just you that has the issue working it out? :confused:

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

See ioan - others understand what is being postulated. Is it just you that has the issue working it out? :confused:

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I could care less about what other understand from your bad quoting, next time quote me properly or don't do it at all.
Was that clear enough?! :mad:

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Originally Posted by ioan

I could care less about what other understand from your bad quoting, next time quote me properly or don't do it at all.
Was that clear enough?! :mad:

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Now now, calm down. Don't get yer kecks all knotted up! ;)

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Now now, calm down. Don't get yer kecks all knotted up! ;)

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One thing that I wouldn't do on a board is intentionally misquoting other members, so I do not appreciate when other do that to me.
What might seem like fun to you might be offensive for others.

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Originally Posted by ioan

One thing that I wouldn't do on a board is intentionally misquoting other members, so I do not appreciate when other do that to me.
What might seem like fun to you might be offensive for others.

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Give over already. :eek:

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Originally Posted by ioan

Let's see how many of those who were complaining that Kimi was allowed to go around with a flapping exhaust pipe (all in the name of safety) are now advocating the removal of tire warmers creating thus the possibility of having 20 unpredictable cars on the track, running at speeds over 300kph!

Hypocrites! :rolleyes:

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How did drivers manage before tyre warmers arrived?

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Originally Posted by ioan

Depends on the concentration of each gas! You agree that the atmosphere doesn't contain 50% N and 50% CO2, at least not yet?!
And you shouldn't forget that it also contains 21% O2!

So it seems to me that you were way out of order suggesting that they use "standard composition of our atmosphere". :p :

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Your interpretation of my comments suggest that you do not speak English as a first language. My first impression was that it might be my English that is not up to scratch, but it seems to me that everyone else understands what I'm saying.

Where did I suggest that they use the standard composition of our atmosphere? Trumper suggested Ferrari's cocktail of gasses used in their tyres were a combination of N & CO2. You seem to think it's a 50% split of the two?

I thought there might be some confusion regarding Trumper's post (hence quoting his post in my reply), where CO2 & N was suggested as the 'cocktail' of gasses. My reply was pointing out that it was very similar to the natural state of gasses in our atmosphere.

Understanding that the composition of the gasses used in a racing car are very different, I asked what the difference may be (what cocktail of gasses are really used). I'm not trying to look like a technical-geek/smart arse, and since nobody else seemed to have picked up on the detail, I thought I could share some info that I had found (which is contrary to CO2 and N being used).

Your comment confirmed my impression that its accepted that the composition of gasses used in racing tyres are CO2 and N (in your case 50%N and 50% Co2).

I just laugh at you telling me not to forget that the composition of our atmosphere is 21% oxygen! That's right! Put me in my place!

This is what I've found regarding the composition of gasses...

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In fact, the gas used by Ferrari is a hydrofluorocarbon (HFC)-based mixture designed specifically for use in racecar tyres, though not dissimilar in composition to gasses used in refrigerators, which are comprised entirely of hydrogen, carbon and fluorine. A team headed by Andrea Seghezzi of Monza, Italy, in association with Gruppo Sapio developed the gas and subjected it to extensive track testing.
It was discovered that the HFCs were able to effectively conduct the heat generated during the rotation of the tyre to the wheel rim at a more or less constant pressure. The wheel rim then acts as a radiator, exchanging the heat with the outside air, maintaining a lower internal temperature and preventing it from overheating. This is particularly effective on aluminum or magnesium wheels.

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http://www.racecar-engineering.com/a...the-f2007.html

So it seems to me that you were way out of order suggesting that they use "50% CO2 and 50%" :p

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Originally Posted by gravity

Your interpretation of my comments suggest that you do not speak English as a first language. My first impression was that it might be my English that is not up to scratch, but it seems to me that everyone else understands what I'm saying.

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Don't play the language coin with me will ya!

Just in case you forgot, here's what you posted earlier:

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Originally Posted by gravity

As far as I can tell, this special "Nitrogen/Co2" cocktail is standard composition of our atmosphere:

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I hope you understand what standard means. :rolleyes:

Your English is so-so, and your knowledge about the Earth's atmosphere is even poorer.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Depends on the concentration of each gas! You agree that the atmosphere doesn't contain 50% N and 50% CO2, at least not yet?!
And you shouldn't forget that it also contains 21% O2!

So it seems to me that you were way out of order suggesting that they use "standard composition of our atmosphere". :p :

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Your interpretation of my comments suggest that you do not speak English as a first language. My first impression was that it might be my English that is not up to scratch, but it seems to me that everyone else understands what I'm saying.

Where did I suggest that they use the standard composition of our atmosphere? Trumper suggested Ferrari's cocktail of gasses used in their tyres were a combination of N & CO2. You seem to think it's a 50% split of the two?

I thought there might be some confusion regarding Trumper's post (hence quoting his post in my reply), where CO2 & N was suggested as the 'cocktail' of gasses. My reply was pointing out that it was very similar to the natural state of gasses in our atmosphere.

Understanding that the composition of the gasses used in a racing car are very different, I asked what the difference may be (what cocktail of gasses are really used). I'm not trying to look like a technical-geek/smart arse, and since nobody else seemed to have picked up on the detail, I thought I could share some info that I had found (which is contrary to CO2 and N being used).

Your comment confirmed my impression that its accepted that the composition of gasses used in racing tyres are CO2 and N (in your case 50%N and 50% Co2).

I just laugh at you telling me not to forget that the composition of our atmosphere is 21% oxygen! That's right! Put me in my place!

This is what I've found regarding the composition of gasses...

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In fact, the gas used by Ferrari is a hydrofluorocarbon (HFC)-based mixture designed specifically for use in racecar tyres, though not dissimilar in composition to gasses used in refrigerators, which are comprised entirely of hydrogen, carbon and fluorine. A team headed by Andrea Seghezzi of Monza, Italy, in association with Gruppo Sapio developed the gas and subjected it to extensive track testing.
It was discovered that the HFCs were able to effectively conduct the heat generated during the rotation of the tyre to the wheel rim at a more or less constant pressure. The wheel rim then acts as a radiator, exchanging the heat with the outside air, maintaining a lower internal temperature and preventing it from overheating. This is particularly effective on aluminum or magnesium wheels.

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http://www.racecar-engineering.com/a...the-f2007.html

So it seems to me that you were way out of order suggesting that I said that they use "standard composition of our atmosphere"
And it seems to me that you were way out of order suggesting that they use "50% CO2 and 50%"

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took all the laughing smileys out as it might have offended