And the sanctions the US has had on them since the 1950s don't have anything to do with them being as poor as they are now? And Cuba was a paradise on earth for everyone before the revolution?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
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And the sanctions the US has had on them since the 1950s don't have anything to do with them being as poor as they are now? And Cuba was a paradise on earth for everyone before the revolution?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
The Japanese probably thought the same thing, and then, BOOM X 2 :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa
Traitor. From now on, I will call you a Bush appeaser or a Bush!te. Or maybe Another Bush Buff aka ABB.Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
That pretty much sums up my opinion.... Well, at least I think so (sorry but there are quite a few typos there and I might be misinterpreting you're opinion).Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazz9908
Personally, I don't think anyone (including the Americans) should have such weaponry. However, since they do, it's a double standard to say that "it's okay for us to have whatever the hell we like, but you're not allowed to because we don't want you to." As for using the "national security" argument to justify in doing so, that really goes both ways so it's technically not a valid reason.
I would rather the US have nuclear weapons than Iran or North Korea. The US isn't going to send one my way for the greater glory of god or to prove that the "Peoples" Republic of North Korea is the best place on earth. That's exactly what those two countries could do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bebee
The US will only launch a nuclear attack with a very good reason, such as ending the war in the Pacific in WWII.
So yes, I think it's OK for the US, Britain, France etc. to have nuclear weapons and try to prevent others from having them. The Western nations are all stable democracies. The likes of Iran and North Korea are not and that makes a very big difference.
I'd rather none of them have nuclear weapons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkmoon
How do you know that? Have they said they intend to do so? Or is it more like American politicians have claimed they could do so?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkmoon
Congratulations for being part of the free world. Some would have left you to your fate, and a few posters on here despite all their bleating would have you live in tyranny forever. Occaisonally opportunities come for democracy to have a say in freeing the oppressed, and when they happen, it is hope for the rest of the oppressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
Eki would just have every nation go along in its own vaccuum, nothing ever changing.
The US gets a lot of things wrong at times, but they are mistakes of naivety at times, and mistakes made with no malice towards the common man.
Some of the nastiest people in the world consider the US the enemy, so if you want to jump on board that bus, Eki, you are free to do so, but if you wasted as much of your time condemning those people as you did the US, your words would have some meaning. Instead, you just sound like as Stalin would say a "useful idiot" who if you read your history, were those in the leftist parties or Communist parties of Western Europe, and people in the far left wing intelligista of American Society. In the 30's, they were very good at white washing some of the ills and crimes Stalin perpetrated against his own people in his many purges and pogroms. Eki, your knee-jerk dogmatic attack on all things American makes you sound just like those people from that era.
The thing is Eki, I would like to consider better of you, and I would like to think you just need to learn more about how things work, but I came to the conclusion you are an anti-American based purely on some sort of ill-logic that only you can explain. IN this thread and on others, I have challenged you repeately to condemn some truly nasty people with the same vigour that you attack the US. I have even AGREED with you to a limited extent when you made a point that could be consdered rational by a open mind, but you just don't stop. You quite frankly sound like a fool at times and for that, I am just going to have to keep refuting a lot of your baseless and knee-jerk arguments. You are so adept at changing the subject that at times is difficult, but nevertheless, I will do so. Why? For the sport of it....and maybe others will learn to think. I don't need people to agree with me Eki, but I would love to see them use logic and come by their arguments in some rational fashion that is based in more than a desparate need to denigrate one nation based on the fact their Customs was rude to me.....
[Bushmode] Bring it on [Bushmode off]Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
It would be best if the things didn't exist, but they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
It's got nothing to do with American politicians. The Ayatollah in Tehran is not a rational, sane person. If he wakes up in the morning and decides that god told him to nuke Israel in a dream then that's exactly what he will do. The same goes for Kim Jong Il. He's been shooting missles over the Sea of Japan. I'm sure the Japanese aren't very comfortable with a nuclear powered North Korea.
There is nothing to stop these guys from doing whatever they want other than the threat of retaliation from the West. These are not democracies. They are dictatorships both. If George Bush or Tony Blair decide they want to start throwing nukes around they will have to go through their respective governments. Unless there is a stunningly good reason for it they will get turned down and probably removed from office shortly there after.
Come on Eki, you don't honestly think the US and Iran are comparable nations, do you?
So your saying America could take on the whole world in war and win??????Quote:
Originally Posted by fousto
If the USA fought the UK alone in total war the whole world would be annihilated.
China is just trying to show America that they can't get there own way all the time. This whole thing is similar to how WW1 started. Nationalism, Germans trying to show the British Empire didn't rule the world.
BTW You said the US is saving the free world. Maybe America sould become a free country before they think about that :laugh: