Printable View
Just out of curiosity - is the points system in WRC, F1 & WRX the same? And did you notice that in WRC 1st and 2nd place has difference of 0 points??? It's getting too funny now, I must quit replying and continue to read this comical thread....Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk
Money is quicker or the car is quicker? Make up your mind. Quicker car always attracts more sponsors (+ in our case Petter's personality which is marketable).Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk
It's developed by Petter and FX. FX was head on previous cars Petters excelled in, like the 2003 Subaru Impreza WRC. Perfect match it seems.
No one is downplaying anything. It's just a fact that Petters team seems to have an advantage over the others at the time, even though their team backing is less than Audi and Peugeot. Good work by PSRX.
As for dominance, sure, right now Petters cars are the ones to beat. Just like Audi had an edge the first three races this year. Or how Ford is the only team to have scored a perfect weekend (though Petters been there except for a P2 in Q4). Ford seemed pretty dominant then, so it varies.
I'm sure the others will catch up to Petter eventually.
Ogier,Latvala,Neuville,Tänak,Meeke,Lappi is 6 according to my math...Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
Sorry after 8 races I see where I`m wrong
But it is not. The cars are developed AND built by VW motorsport in Hannover. I already gave you links to sources with that information.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
I never said either was quicker, my posts were about where the money was coming from.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
That's true, privateers are fighting for scraps...but that's to be expected because it's motorsport and that's how it works. No different in the WRC. I still find it surprising that someone like Wilks (who got the 1600 Mini to a final) is in a car that fought for the championship last year and he can't even get it to a semi. I suspect that what we're going to see is the main teams that have an inkling of manufacture support (Ford, VW, Audi, Peugeot) continue to move away from the others. Subsequently the 'privateer' entries will move to EuroRX instead, with the exception of a few hardy souls who think it's worth the money (like Al Qassimi in WRC).Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
And then all the manufacturers will go electric and drivers will come back to the top level of combustion engine stuff, such is the cycle of top level motorsport.
12345Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Where the heck did I write that the VW's are not the best cars atm?Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Where did I downplay VW knowledge?
What I am trying to say is that it is not a factory backed team. VW is not in RX as a factory. VW does not cover any expenses for personnel at the events. They are not covering expenses for running the cars. They are not covering expenses for shipping the cars. If the Solberg - VW Sweden team don't pay, the cars will either stay unused, or someone else will pay for it.
Is is not a factory backed team. The Solberg - VW Sweden hire the VW Motorsport crew themselves, and the cars, and everything.
IMO Polo has been fastest car every event this season. They just gave away first three.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
More finances for VW-PSRX than for Peugeot and Audi. That's it. But, it's surprising that Kristoffersson is better than Petter this year.
I'm a bit sad for Petter. Maybe next year will be more competitive between M-Sport/FP, Audi, Peugeot & VW. I hope...
Dieter Depping confirmed in a third PSRX Team Sweden Polo for Buxtehude.
Cool.. Some extra cash for the team.
Wilks has announced that he's not driving for the rest of the season and "Good luck Alastair". Anyone know who, not McRae is it?
I still don't fully get why Guy hasn't been quicker in at least a few events, the car is proven and he previously got to a final at Lydden so you'd expect him to at least occasionally trouble a semi-final but it just hasn't happened.
Shame that...
Hope he comes back next year in some form of rallying or RX.
A bit saddening news for me, as the 10 year anniversary of Colin's passing is approaching. You can't help but imagine how big Colin could have been in RX...
Great news to still have a Brit to support in WorldRX. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Ekström and EKS RX may leave the series after this season. 4 of the 5 cars are for sale and will be auctioned out via E-bay.
https://www.motorsport.com/world-rx/...series-947813/
https://www.autosport.com/wrx/news/1...certain-future
https://www.flickr.com/photos/eksrx/...57685505882761
Big change with wet conditions today in France: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M25NJviybog
Looks like the Peugeot's may have improved their performance and it could be a chance for Loeb to battle the Krisoffersson for a win at home.
Kristofferson, predictably took it. Really impressed how much the Peugeots has improved.
Robin might buying one of those S1s, or maybe some GRC drivers..Quote:
Originally Posted by BleAivano
Sent from my A12 using Tapatalk
The Audi A1 is 7 years old now and a new model comes in early 2018. I think the 2018 RX car will be based on the new chassis, so they're selling off the old cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by BleAivano
Ekstrom:
"As a driver I would love to continue in rallycross. If I answer as a driver, I can see my DTM career - with Mercedes pulling out - coming to an end in 2018.I would enjoy doing rallycross for a couple more years, but from a team perspective it's a different story.I don't know if we will have what it takes to be here next year."
And Ken Block wrote on instagram he miss racing in US. Hope he goes back to America with Ford support. Someone gotta beat the Beetles. And IMO Ken deserves a GRC title
(Noticed that RedBullGRC changed all of its social media to "GRC SERIES" and RedBullTV is not broadcasting the races on RedBullTV anymore.
Ken has improved a lot this year, it would be a weird time to quit.
did he grow a chin ? or remains to be a chinless vagabond dog dressing like an autistic 15 year old while being 50 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
https://www.motorsport.com/world-rx/...t-quit-953131/
Hmmmmm...
Loeb:
“Volkswagen's dominance annoys pretty much everyone. Now they're coming with a car that was developed for the WRC, with a WRC-like budget, and adapted to rallycross."
He said teams have a 5mi budget vs 30mi from VW
Weird to see a NINE TIMES WRC CHAMP saying something like this, eh?
But still... Kristoffersson is just in another level tbh. Is not like VW is doing a 1-2 at every track.
I dont know. Its not fun to have only one guy winning everytime. Its not good to see that VW is putting 30mi on the cars while the others are on a 5mi budget... and theres the privateers and costumers, with even less money. Its kinda sad to see this series going down that way. Could this be one of the reasons EKS could pull out from the series and Ken wants to race in US again?
EuroRX is more interesting right now. The Scandinavian RallyX is also pretty intense with no manufacturer envolvment. IDK what to think. Still my favorite sport hehe
Hmm, I wouldn't be worried. What if someone won 10 races in a season and won the championship 9 years in a row? Now that would be boring. I guess that guy would never complain about anyone else being faster, right?
I don't want to say you're wrong, but most of the time Sébastien Loeb won because he was the best driver by far. Sure, the cars Citroën built weren't bad, but at least in some years the Ford or Subaru were equally strong. Just the drivers weren't. They did too many mistakes, as simple as that. You could say that this is the case in World RX now as well, but I don't think so. In recent years it became obvious that Timmy Hansen, Andreas Bakkerud or Mattias Ekström are as fast as Petter Solberg and Johan Kristoffersson, but look where they are now. They are without any real chance. And that's mainly due to the fact that Volkswagen obviously invests a lot more money than Peugeot, Ford or Audi. Or imagine that Robin Larsson would win a round. This seems to be impossible now. Two years ago he managed to do so... Something has changed in World RX and that's mainly due to the arrival of Volkswagen.
I think you've misread this.Quote:
Originally Posted by giu canbera
VW aren't putting in 30 million - there's no way Petter can afford that - he suggest that if teams have to put in that much to match a car that's had WRC-style budgets then the value proposition isn't there. There's just not the return on investment.
The VW has had so much money thrown at it during the WRC years that it's in a different league and you can hire VW Motorsport as a customer (like Petter) and get a great car for a fraction of the cost.
The way he said I dont think Petter and Johan are paying for anything.
it looks VW is putting big efforts on that team, like in GRC (with Andretti Autosport/Tanner Foust/Scott Speed). Ok, maybe not 30 million.. but if a 5 million car program is not enough according to a driver like Loeb.. there is something wrong.
BTW...IDK about you guys, but 5mi? I thought it was a cheaper program. Indycars are 5mi/year (more or less). I really thought WorldRX were on the 1.5million. Hmm.. Maybe the privateers are on the 500k/1mi numbers, right?
Anyway... Loeb won 9 titles and never said anything about "Ahh, its boring having me winning every year" hehe
IDK if u guys are aware of this game. Its called "generally", but its basic a RallyCross game.
I think its my all time favorite (racing genre). Its so simple yet so fun. You can create tracks, cars, sound, change rules, AI levels, points system. its all pretty simple. And it has less than 2mb haha. Heres the official website:
http://gene-rally.com/download/
And here >> http://forum.generally-racers.com/ you can find some GREAT QUALITY tracks and cars that fans upload. Theres lots of WRC content too. (stages, cars etc).
hope u all enjoy
The last of the "rascals" of autosport is starting to get the attention of the familyhead. 'Get more grown up and professional, or take the consequences!'
Factory teams in a branch of the motorsport tree, will always make the price go up, and number of competitors go down!
The inevitable has happened, congrats to Johan. He's been supreme over this season, even though the VW is head & shoulders above everything else he's still been brilliant in it, even Petter couldn't get close.
Hope Solberg is alright, it was a fairly big impact.
Petter broke his collarbone in the impact the Norwegian media write, after talking with Pernilla.
On the official World RX twitter too. Surprising that's the injury that he got, not usually one you associate with motorsport. Guess it's to do with the side impact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Or maybe he got a knock from the steering wheel when he hit Heikkinen
No it has to do with the HANS device. Collarbone injuries in combination with HANS device happens more often than you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
Yeah, it's the HANS that did him in. It's been known to happen, especially on side impacts. First corner was slippery and the little nudge from Loeb to Petters rear was enough to get him to slide off. When he reentered Baumanis had nowhere else to go and no time to stop. That was a pretty hard impact.
Creds to the track personell that stopped the heat and got an ambulance out in under a minute. Also creds to Baumanis engineers that luckily were able to get his car ready for the restart.
Congratulations to Johan, it's well deserved. He's fast, with great support from the best team in the paddock, and he doesn't make mistakes, kind of like Loeb back in WRC. Also constantly faster than his teammate even though the hardware is identical, again like Loeb in WRC.
The biggest congratulations go to Petter for assembling and running a team that has pushed the level several clicks higher, while keeping reliability good. It's a great achievement, too bad he had to get the gold while in an ambulance..
On the contrary, it is very common in motorcycle sports, particular in speedway.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
Well done Johan!
Yes, that car is epic, but check out his driving style to maximise it. So neat. Thoroughly got the legs in Solberg, as predicted, as the season progressed. Hats off.