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Estonian Black bread, it does not make your butt large according to Ott.
https://estoniancuisine.com/2017/02/...ck-bread-leib/
In Germany no one I know or speak to knows anything about rally.
- What did you do last weekend?
- I visited a rally
- Aha, hmm, did you drive yourself?
- No, I took photos
- mmh, aha, interesting, what kind of rally is that?
- The world rally championship
- Oh, wow, that sounds cool... never heard of it *yawn*
Östberg´s Fiesta sold to Estonia. First start in 2 days at Saaremaa Rally
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-zdSoCpDFv...74191616_n.jpg
According to local media, the owner of car is Tänak´s company OT Racing.
Was wondering, will he going to get latest upgrades also? :D
Yes the owner is OTracing but im sure it was bought by Tänaks long time sponsor Oleg Gross. At least this was the case with the previous car.
E: ok estonian media reporting that it belongs to Tänak..well maybe but im not sure.
Convenient, like many prefer to rent top machinery instead of owning, losing its value and maintaining it.
why i cant see Meeke in rally legend standings on ewrc site ?
Red Bull continues to run some ‘top gear style’ challenges; this time it was Sordo vs a MTB champ, using a former Rally de Portugal stage: https://www.redbull.com/int-en/tv/vi...fast-encounter
Has anyone visited Rally Argentina or Mexico and can recommend one of the two?
Mexico. Free to roam around, if you are Western or a Gringo it's an advantage.
Mexico is a fantastic rally!
Meeke and Breen combo destroyed four chassis of C3 WRC
https://www.ewrc-results.com/cars/65-citroen-c3-wrc/
Argentina is sensational. If you stay in Carlos Paz you're not too far from Saturday and Sunday's stages. El Cóndor is something remarkable, the atmosphere is like nothing else and the view while you're hiking toward the stage is amazing.
The city center is pretty decent too, developed and well populated but not overly crowded, and the prices of food and things are quite low/reasonable.
I stayed in a small bed and breakfast called Mirador de las Sierras, family owned, and when we got up at 6 to go to the stages the owners made us coffee and gave us breakfast despite the official time being at 8. Hopefully I'll go again next year!
Sounds awesome, that will be a really hard decision for me... I like both Mexico and Argentina.
It will be my first rally on a different continent (I've been to Jordan, but that's not that far away) so I want to pick the right one to not be disappointed.
Can you freely roam around in Argentina?
And can you spend around one week around Cordoba?
I'm from Buenos Aires and travelled to Carlos Paz by car, and I haven't been to Córdoba city since I travelled on Friday (meaning I also missed that day's stages; as I said before, the stages in Villa General Belgrano on Friday are a couple hours away from Carlos Paz, so I only saw the stages nearer to me).
If by freely roam you mean travel anywhere in the country, yes! There aren't any restrictions on entering or leaving provinces.
To be fair, I didn't have much time to wander in Carlos Paz since I was at the stages most of the time. I visited Tanti for the Tanti-Villa Bustos stage on Saturday and stayed in that town until the second pass through the stage was done, and between runs when the stage wasn't being run I walked around the little town (really, Tanti is gorgeous) for a few hours just exploring, and I found a little waterfall and had a coffee there! My point is, most of the roaming and exploring is spent wherever the stages are, but while I didn't do much in Carlos Paz I know there was a karting track and a lot of cafés and bars and stuff.
You might find something to do for a week in Córdoba, but you might be stretching it in Carlos Paz. My advice would be to travel to Buenos Aires, the capital, and stay there for a week (the city is massive, there's lots to do, and the city is modern, classical and extremely beautiful; you could rent a bike and wander around Recoleta or Palermo, two neighborhoods off the top of my head that are some of the best areas in the city).
After your week in BA you could fly to Cordoba on Thursday and see the super special, then drive to Carlos Paz (must be an hour or two) to have it as your base and start the rally on Friday.
Renting or having a car available is very important IMO, I have no clue about guided tours other than they're quite expensive. If you keep an eye on the itinerary and plan ahead you can manage yourself just fine (when I went it was my first time and I drove everywhere and everything went fine).
Some of the best moments of the trip are between stages, like the hike to El Cóndor through legitimately virgin terrain (the sense of vastness and freedom is like nothing else) or the walks around Carlos Paz or Tanti just getting to know the place. The service park was enjoyable too, and completely free (only complaint was that Pringles began giving away little cans and everyone rushed to the stand!).
Something I should mention is that the Fernet Branca/Parque Temático SSS is a total blast to go watch, but the access road is not prepared for the masses of spectators that flock over there, so getting in is a bit of a pain. Leaving isn't so bad from the SSS, but leaving Tanti is a total nightmare and you might take a couple hours to make it back to Carlos Paz if you go at the same time as everyone else. Be prepared also to park next to the road on your way to El Cóndor and hike straight down into the sierras past the guardrails. It looks daunting but you'll likely not be alone treading those untouched lands, and spectators that walk along with you won't hesitate to help you climb a stone or shuffle down a hill.
One last thing: unless, and I'm not even entirely sure, you have Personal as your mobile service provider, you won't have any mobile signal on the stages. If you know Spanish, take a radio to hear the AM broadcast to know any updates or information about the rally while you're there. Carlos Paz has excellent 4G connectivity.
I got a little carried away maybe, but I could go on and on about how amazing Rally Argentina was for me.
Thanks for your amazing description, you're helping me a lot, especially with the tip to visit Buenos Aires.
Although I like nature more than cities, I'd love to see the Glaciares national park for example, but that's waaaay more South, Argentina is so big :-)
By freely roam around I meant the stages, like are marshals very strict or can you freely walk around the stage?
A few months ago, some of you got sand in your jock because I dared to validate an F1/circuit racer's ability in comparison to Rally drivers. Since then, 5 time WRC Sebastien Ogier floundered in the DTM. Diminishing the notion of Rally drivers being any better.
But don't worry. Overall, Ogier is still the best driver in the world. Cars in circuit racing nowadays have had so much engineering input into them, that you kind of have to be a specialist to succeed even in the lower levels of professional motorsport.
Put down the beer and step away from the keyboard.
Ogier not doing well does not "diminish the notion of rally drivers" anything..
it says only that Ogier is not doing too well..and does not say at all why..
Is it because he has crazy ideas how to drive circuits?
Or maybe he has a big ego and makes a big deal about how he wants the car set up--and its wrong?
Maybe the team hates him and ignores him?
One could speculate for weeks...but its circuit racing, so who cares?
Maybe you should try some remedial logic classes evenings?
The stages and the roads leading to them are already naturally beautiful and swerve around the mountains, so that's already some nature for you! It might be a stretch to go south, but some low cost flights have begun lately so there might be a flight you can catch from the Patagonia straight to Cordoba.
I'm not so sure how strict the marshalls are because I didn't walk around the stages too much. In between runs they're very relaxed for sure, because I saw people wandering around, and while they were quite strict in Tanti before the 000 car came through I'm sure you can walk on the stage anyway. All the people at the watersplash on that stage must have walked on it because it's the only way to get there (I was a little too compliant with the stewards since it was my first time).
yeah, I said that racing cars these day have so much input in them that you have to become a specialist in them to succeed. It wouldn't surprise me if guys like Alonso and Hamilton couldn't dominate DTM. The question whether Ogier will ever get the time to master a dtm car, and if it's even worthwhile doing when he has a harder discipline to deal with?
Don't get upset. Did you not read all of the post?
What a strange presumption. not at all upset..Just pointing out an error in logic...Not disagreeing that DTM is specialised skills just that because Ogier hasn't done well means anything beyond that. It doesn prove that DTM drivers, or track racers are anything..
This is a rally forum. DTM and how or what anybody does there has no relevance to anything this forum is about..
The roadracers vs rally drivers "debate" is a horse that was beaten to death decades ago.
Are you a roadracer?
IMO, It's actually quite relevant to discuss Ogier and what he does in DTM. He is the current reigning World Champion in rally and he has shown time and time again that he has briallaint race craft. It would be quite normal to be curious how that would translate. I suspect it could translate well, if he goes all in and has a good team around him, but there are no guarantees. Time will tell but as long as he is driving a rally car, it's interesting to also follow other things he is doing.
Ogier did an impressive job at Spielberg. He actually finished race 1 in P12, overtaken by two cars just in the last lap because of him being a bit too reckless. Watch the end of race 1 from his onboard video...breathtaking. That man was on fire!!!
Watch from 1:01:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqx-3D-Uh2k
Paddon for Waimate50 - street race event - demonstration/ ride laps in the AP4+ Hyundai i20.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/timaru-heral...-at-waimate-50
The Targa next week - as at 17/ 10 does not list HP as a competitive section entry, so possibly a zero car in an i30N or in the targa tour section? co-drivers not mentioned. There were rumours of another competition hyundai being prepared.
Hello back there.
Don't want to make seperate thread or Monte Carlo dedicated, so will ask here.
Proposed dates for RMC 2019 are 24-27.01. 2019.
Somehow, I had an idea for skiing trip and some rally watching too. Like, skiing for a few days in the beginning of the week, then watch rally on friday and saturday, ski for one more day and going back home on monday morning. Traveling by car, so would arrive on previous sunday evening. For skiing and accomodation, I found nice options in Briançon, closer to Italian border.
In this scenario, I would need to relay on spectating options provided by fellow forum users, as I won't have a time for recce by myself.
What are your thoughts about this idea and possible problems I would face?
I do it the same way last 3 years. You may like this village. It is close to the stages.
https://www.orcieres.com/en/