But this is Ove Andersson in a works Corolla in 1974 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Norm75
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/photos-rallycars/8.jpg
Then again, probably there were some Castrol Escort prior to 1974 :D
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But this is Ove Andersson in a works Corolla in 1974 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Norm75
http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/photos-rallycars/8.jpg
Then again, probably there were some Castrol Escort prior to 1974 :D
There are... Not only Escorts...
A fantastic evening for us yesterday as we picked up two awards at the Professional MotorSport World Expo Awards.
Fighting off stiff competition, the Ford Fiesta WRC won the Race Car of the Year award, and our very own Chris Williams was named Engineer of the Year. https://t.co/yTMmNGeeWZ
Do you work for M-Sport Fast Eddie?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
No, my quote from Twitter didnt pick up the @M-Sport bit... :sQuote:
Originally Posted by car
fair enough either way Eddie... good to see them getting all your support!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
That's why the forum has a quote tag :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
For quoting other forum posts, not tweets.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I disagree, but at least use "" characters and post a link to the source.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
No-one uses "quotes" for tweets here.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
And I did post the source.
I know that people just copy paste stuff here, but I'm saying I'd love to see "" signs or the quote tag used on text which isn't their own material. But it may be just me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
And yeah, sorry, you did post the link like everyone should :)
I should get a free invite the years I've been supporting when they won nothing ! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sal the 2nd
"Having won the triple crown of drivers', co-drivers' and manufacturers' titles on home soil at last month’s Dayinsure Wales Rally GB, the team travel to the final round with the aim of getting at least one of its drivers on the podium.
Doing so will add to the top-three finishes it has scored on every round so far this year, making it the only manufacturer to complete this feat three times – the previous clean-sweeps coming in 2009 and 2012."
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/novem...0--12-12-.html
The performance of the Fiesta reminds me of the 2009 Brown F1 - the team started strongly the season after the big technical regulation changes, but despite winning the title, were massively outdeveloped towards the end of the year by some of the other teams and were way behind the following year. For the sake of the WRC, I really hope this does not happen to M-Sport.
What happens next year remains to be seen. But it's hard to make the argument they've struggled at all this year. Podium on every round etc. The Brawn team were basically on their knees at the end of that season and narrowly held on.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickRally
I think since the Monte the Neuville/Hyundai combination has been the quickest in the championship. That's borne out in the stage win totals. M-Sport did more with less when they built the new Fiesta. So I'm hopeful if they can get a bit of development resource then they will still be in the fight.
Fair point, I just have the feeling the gap to the Hyundais on pure pace, widened in the last couple of rounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Agreed. And I think you summed it up perfectly in your previous post . Like someone said in the other thread that they didn’t have any updates basically since sardegna.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickRally
Do we know what updates Hyundai were able to bring in during the second half of the year? I think there was some new rear aero on Thierry's car. Did they have anything else?
M-Sport without Ogier wouldn't be the same team. Hyundai is obviously quickest but sometimes not. why is that?! only technicians know. Tanak sometimes quicker then 5 times world champ. he progressed a lot with Ogier
Well, Brawn was instantly bought by Mercedes and look where they are now, absolutely dominating F1 for four years now. Let’s say Ford invests in M-Sport and they’ll dominate by 2021. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by NickRally
Compared to MSport, Citroen had a full extra year to develop the C3. Plus the factory resources. Didnt help them much did it...
And why anyone wants dominace?? I stop watching World RX this year because of VW. Sure is great but it's NOT interesting if you know who will win... This year was great and I hope that it will continue, and that battle will go donw to last round maybe one or two driver more in the game and we will all bite our nails to the end. That's what I call exciting, not some team who beat everyone everytime and looks like that there is no competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigWorm
Fans may not want dominance, but the team's are here for business. One way or the other. Don't you think M-Sport want to be as successful as possible?Quote:
Originally Posted by ESTR
I get what you mean but don't think it is a valid analogy in this context. Brawn had a single massive first mover advantage over the rest of the F1 field with their stepped rear diffusor, giving their car a huge grip advantage in the early part of the year. You are right that they only just held on in the latter part of the season as the other better funded teams brought on many developments, including their own versions of the diffusor. But the Fiesta at the beginning of 2017 did not have a single big tech advantage. I would go as far as to say it was never the fastest car at any of the events per se. The advantages it had were firstly Ogier, secondly it seemed to work to a reasonable standard over a wider range of conditions than the others and finally and possibly most importantly, it was more reliable than the others (both mechanically and through the drivers getting it to the finish).Quote:
Originally Posted by NickRally
I don't however disagree that the Hyundai has upped its pace in the latter part of the season and without further development the Fiesta will struggle to match it in 2018, even with Ogier on board.
As an aside, I still have high hopes that the benefit of Toyota's first year will be seen in 2018, especially with Tanak in there now as well.
Meanwhile, I share the scepticism of others as to Citroen's chances next year. The only thing they seem to be good at is shooting themselves in the foot!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPO4AA-WsAA2Cys.jpg
Which rally or national championship is still allowing WRC cars, and especially 2017 ones ?
Prague Rallysprint.
Great looking car!
Estonian. Latvian?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
As Martijn wrote, it's for Prague Rallysprint which is Czech show event held in the streets of Prague this Saturday.
They still allow WRC cars to run in Irish events but only R5's can score in the ITC.
Finland you can drive with WRC17 but not score championship points. (WRC before 2002 allowed to points)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
That I know, WRC cars are allowed in national championships of France, Belgium, Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Estonia, Sweden, in Finland only late 90s-early 00s ones I think. Not sure about Netherlands, Lithuania and Latvia. Theoretically even Canada, I believe. I wouldn't know about the 2017 ones though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Czech Republic only locally registered WRC cars with the date of registration before 01-01-2016 and only cars with first homologation before 01-01-2007. In that time they basically only allowed all WRC cars locally present in the country to take part in the championship but that's all. You can't bring any other car (even old one). IMHO the rule is total garbage but it's still valid (I don't know how it's going to be in 2018).
In Belgium you can drive a 2.0l WRC if you haven't won a national rally in the last 3 years. 1.6l WRC can only be run in RRC configuration.
You can run any WRC in a regional rally.
Mirek touch the main thing! How will be in 2018.
I don't expect national ASNs to start allowing the new WRC cars.
Can’t score or can’t start it is different.
Hmm, we have no such difference here. What can start can score. It used to be like that for ages.
Gallery from Dohnal's test: https://www.ewrc.cz/foto/45377-test-...rc-17-2017/16/
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2017/phot...f_img_4337.jpg
Is he renting it or planning to buy it/bought it?
Renting for this show event only. The car is not allowed in championship events in CZ and won't be in the near future. He has two Focus WRC 08 (in very good condition) and that's already the best allowed.