We never had 'Superally' years ago... when you went off you were out and that was it.
I never understood why it was brought in.
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We never had 'Superally' years ago... when you went off you were out and that was it.
I never understood why it was brought in.
Next stage is on :cool:
That's a nice load of "if" bs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
IF the Red planet had a bigger metal core we would be rallying now in the amazing canyons of Valles Marineris.
They could have done Power Stage on Sunday still but had a 4 day rally with 2 stages +1 (Power Stage) on Sunday and how it's set up now, sans 1 day.. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
I've enjoyed following but the time difference sucks! hah
totally diferent situation to compare ss No1&2 when you have 4 days to erase your wrong tyre choice,with the only fiesta you have in rally at 3rd day which must collect your only points.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
Ford have history with wrong tyre choices.It is not something new.
Does anybody know if Michel Ferry plays the violin? There is a Michel Ferry from France (not sure where) who plays the fiddle in an Irish style and is well known as a composer in traditional music circles. I wonder could it be the same guy. Sorry to go off-topic. It just caught my eye :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
hahahahahaha
Loeb finished
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Probably because a new generation of drivers and fans have grown up playing everything with a big fat red RESET button just a click away.
And so any mistake, BAM! Resent.
Petter smashed a wheel.
Front left puncture for petter
MICHEL FERRYQuote:
Originally Posted by 52Paddy
Mikko could take 3rd after Petters problems ??
Hivonen 2.9sec better than Loeb.
But is that the biggest mistake?Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
Regardez:
FIA president Jean Todt, a firm advocate of longer rallies, said the length of events needed further debate.
"The Monte Carlo Historic Rally has 320 entries," said Todt. "It starts in two weeks and still with the concentration part. Last year, some started from Marrakech, some from Stockholm and if you speak with some people they say it was outstanding to have this concentration [run to the actual start of the event] which was lasting two, three or four days.
"And now if we have the [WRC] rally which is lasting more than three days then some people complain. We have to figure out which is the best option. We will move in the best direction, but we will do this by allowing each rally to have its own soul."
A little emphasis for the points seemingly lost..
80 something cars vs 320.....which do you think is a bigger event?
at first day he had also a broken rim as i saw in a photo from here.Was front rightQuote:
Originally Posted by René
Another good time for Novikov ;)
Petter didnt lose too much as puncture/wheel damage was near the end of SS13...
Still 24sec lead over Mikko...
Pos Pilote / Pilot Voiture / Car N° Temps / Time Ecart / Diff. Pénalité / Penalty
01 LOEB Sébastien (FRA) CITROEN DS 3 WRC 13:31:25:200--:--:----:--:--
02 SORDO CASTILLO Daniel (ESP) MINI COOPER WRC 373:33:37:600+0:02:12:400--:--:--
03 SOLBERG Petter (NOR) FORD FIESTA WRC 43:34:44:400+0:03:19:200--:--:--
04 HIRVONEN Mikko (FIN) CITROEN DS 3 WRC 23:35:08:200+0:03:43:000--:--:--
05 NOVIKOV Evgeny (RUS) FORD FIESTA WRC 63:35:53:400+0:04:28:200--:--:--
06 DELECOUR François (FRA) FORD FIESTA WRC 83:38:04:300+0:06:39:100--:--:--
He's been in the top 5 in every stage since SS7, with a few 3rd fastest times. Really impressed by him.Quote:
Originally Posted by René
Is the WRC ponts system same as last year including the power stage?
Petter will defend his 3rd position at all costs,he cant afford to stay off the podium.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I don't get this. The Monte was always flooded by amateur entries, except when they changed to a cloverleaf format, when the event barely managed 50 entries every year.Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
Explanation of SS12 for Petter:
“We tried the best we could. On the first stage there was no problem but the second stage was full of water from the start and there was big aquaplaning so we really backed off. Then there was more water and full ice in the forest - we didn’t have a good feeling and we didn’t want to end up in the ditch. Of course we’re still battling and we need to make a better choice next time.”
Patterson said: “We really struggled on the last stage, especially on the ice on the downhill [section]. We had a spin at less than 3kph and a stall but we’re still here and we’re still fighting. There’s a long way to go so we won’t give up.”
Ford team chief Malcolm Wilson added: “Stage 11 worked really well for us, but on stage 12, the conditions had deteriorated quite a lot since the [safety] crews had gone through it. Petter had a huge moment very early on, resulting in a 100-metre slide - as similarly happened to some other drivers - and after that, he sensibly decided to just get through to the end of the stage. He wanted to protect his podium rather than risk anything rash. Going forward, stage 13 this afternoon is likely to have rain, and of course we've still got the famous passes through the Col de Turini to go, so I very much believe anything can still happen."
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Langdale Forest
Lets see if Hirvonen has anything left for the 4th day....plenty of Kms to go.
Μaurin moments
SAM 0598 - YouTube
Sordos from another angle
SAM 0587 - YouTube
Must say it's boring rally. Too much free space.
Today's winner is definitely Sordo. Second place battle is almost over, he just needs to drive safe for the reminder of the rally to have an excellent season start.
has mikko found a new gear???
or is it just a good choice of tire?
or are loeb and sordo starting to slow down to ensure the final podium as the gaps are huge now?
It is clear that Loeb, as usual, has slowed down a little bit, which is a smart thing to do, especially in such weather condition and with such a time difference.
That's why Hirvonen is now equally fast, baring in mind that he has something to prove and he has to be on the charge....
Nice video-nice atmosphere: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah29DHNK4zk
Also Day 3 highlights: Monte Carlo: résumé Jour 3 - WRC Monte Carlo - RTBF Vidéo
I definitely hope Hirvonen will take that 3rd place tomorrow :bounce:
Totally agreed, ZequeArgentina! Nobre is there just because he has the budget to do so. Rafael Tulio, Ulysses Bertholdo, Edio Fuchter, Luis Tedesco, Guilherme Spinelli, all of them are way much better than Nobre, but the are budget-less. And due to that I say I'm impressed that Nobre got so far with no issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZequeArgentina
BTW, looking forward to go to Argentina this year... Do you know whether the monster stage "El Durazno-Ambul" (or vice-versa) has accessible spectator sports?
Different why? These were the only two situations where someone clearly made a wrong choice with important handicap in terms of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
One time mistake from Citroen, the other time mistake from Ford. 1-1 is the result in terms of mistakes. Nothing seriously important.
I'm talking about this Monte Carlo only.
Jean Todt made a strange comparison. Compare a WRC rally and a Historic Rally is looking to two completely different events. The drivers and teams from WRC and Historic are completely differente, the teams, even the costs are completely different.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
To start a discussion, the majority of historic drivers are people in the 50's and 60's with a lot of money and usually retired from work. By other words, the do the rally with one week, or teo or three week... Usually time spent is not a big problem to them. The amateur drivers that go to a WRC event, the ones that made the entry lists have 100 or 120 entreis, usually are not professional drivers and have limited time as well has limited budgets.
The budget is also a problem. One more day on a WRC rally is much more expensive that one more day on a Historic rally.
To create a longer rally to have 3 stages per day is a strange option. Would be better a day less and two mores stages per day IMO.
Actually Citroen didn't make a mistake. They just didn't want to use super soft tyres too much,Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
cos they were only 3 (?) sets of them and it is a five day rally.
Budget of the car is way much higher than the car who got drivin in the Historic rally. It are not competition cars who drive there it's a regularity rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
i know ya pity :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
pictures from yesterday:
rallysport.hu - Monte Carlo Rallye 2012