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You don't seem to get the point. There were times when it was enough for You to win a world title in PWRC to have S2000 car as there were only one or two yet nobody was running to WRC. IRC had up to 30 S2000 cars on start and PWRC 1 or 2. In that time it was also world title but nobody cared as IRC was a lot better place in terms of competition, recognition, marketing etc. While it's not possible for ERC to compete with WRC for obvious reasons it is definitely possible to fight with WRC2 and to attract more competitors as WRC2 in terms of marketing is pretty much non-existent in the media. As I said they don't seem to care anymore.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

You don't seem to get the point. There were times when it was enough for You to win a world title in PWRC to have S2000 car as there were only one or two yet nobody was running to WRC. IRC had up to 30 S2000 cars on start and PWRC 1 or 2. In that time it was also world title but nobody cared as IRC was a lot better place in terms of competition, recognition, marketing etc. While it's not possible for ERC to compete with WRC for obvious reasons it is definitely possible to fight with WRC2 and to attract more competitors as WRC2 in terms of marketing is pretty much non-existent in the media. As I said they don't seem to care anymore.

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because of running costs! privateers didnt have budget to do wrc2 so irc/erc was the next best thing and everyone went there... I think thats the big difference between s2000 and r5 cars...

Łukasz Pieniążek 2016: Canarias, Ireland, Azores, Ypres, Estonia, Rzeszwoski and Barum

Rally Azores will be presented on next week with a new name: Azores Airlines Rallye

I don't believe Skoda would be in WRC2 if VW didn't want them there for youth training, and remember without them WRC2 wouldn't be that strong in quality.

What I don't understand is why sponsors support drivers to do WRC2 when there is no publicity. Maybe they're not in it for purely commercial reasons.

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Originally Posted by marcosg

because of running costs! privateers didnt have budget to do wrc2 so irc/erc was the next best thing and everyone went there... I think thats the big difference between s2000 and r5 cars...

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R5 don't have lower runing cost than S2000 cars. They are cheaper to buy but not to run, especially in WRC2.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

R5 don't have lower runing cost than S2000 cars. They are cheaper to buy but not to run, especially in WRC2.

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well, i've been told engines do a lot more milage, more than double... I'm not sure about the rest (gerabox, transmissions and so)

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well, i've been told engines do a lot more milage, more than double... I'm not sure about the rest (gerabox, transmissions and so)

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Engine is doing more mileage (we will see how it will be now with new evolutions), but there is additional cost for turbo and also there is more "serial" parts which need to be replaced earlier.

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R5 don't have lower runing cost than S2000 cars. They are cheaper to buy but not to run, especially in WRC2.

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Originally Posted by PLuto

Engine is doing more mileage (we will see how it will be now with new evolutions), but there is additional cost for turbo and also there is more "serial" parts which need to be replaced earlier.

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Do you guys have any stats on running costs pr km SS on the two types of cars yet, or is that too early?

When it comes to price to buy a new car; How much diff is it btw latest evo S2000 and R5 Fabias?

Damn, new date for Latvia in September - was hoping this might actually put Valais back on the calendar, but guess not.