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Looks plenty fast to me. Sounds great too.
I hope the people who run the BRC allow these cars in soon. Rather than the top category being the horrid little understeery Citroens and Fiesta R2s
As a side note, I remember when I first read about this category (when it was still referred to as R4T) and thought they were just going to be like R3Ts with four wheel drive underneath. Thank God they're nothing like that! Loud, fast and bulging at the wheel arches :D
Any news who ordered a 208 T16 since it's possible to do so(on ordering paper) :confused:
The sound is definitely interesting but overall I don't find the video impressive. Hard to judge how fast it is because on these roads even WRC cars look often slow and boring. Definitely it's nothing mind-blowing but that could have been hardly expected.
Difficult to say what final price will be. The base price of the Fiesta is 260 000 £ (303 900 €) and the Peugeot prices are for tarmac / gravel kits 264 000 € / 269 000 €.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arganil
Malcom said some time ago that the price would be between 200 000 £ - 250 000 £ (233 765 € - 292 205 €).
I think at least the price for the R5 engine will be a lot more affordable if the regulations are the same as for R3T. The gearbox could be cheaper (6 gear for S2000, 5 gear for R5) also. In general I think the Sadev gearbox and rear diff are cheaper than the Xtrac gearbox and rear diff.
The uprights will also be more affordable because they have to be machined instead S2000 welded ones. Brakes and suspension must be at least on same level (driveability) as for S2000 because they are both in the same class. Also the R5 steering column looks shorter in the pics. I can’t come up with any more major parts that could dramatically affect the price.
Malcom Wilson also said that 90% of the parts are different from the WRC car. Imo he should compare the S2000 and R5 instead because the S2000 and WRC don’t have many common parts as Christian Loriaux said here
Q. How many parts are common to both the S2000 and the RS WRC?
A. We obtained plenty of data from the S2000 which competed in the S-WRC and other championships last year. We re-evaluated every area and if we thought certain areas could be improved, we went ahead and did so. Apart from the roll cage and chassis there aren't too many parts that the Fiesta RS WRC shares with the S2000. Plenty of parts may look similar, but they have been modified to be lighter, stiffer or whatever we felt would bring an improvement.
Don't forget that both Fiesta WRC/RRC and S2000 are technically S2000 cars. Both is built under same regulations (there was an evolution to the 1.6T engine but the rule basis is still same). Sure the parts differ but that doesn't mean those are some fundamental differences rather than evolutions of same ideas. If we speak about "new" Fiesta S2000 which is called RRC and WRC than both is virtually same except few minor differences. The running cost of RRC and WRC must be almost same in my opinion (judging from engine rebuild price available on M-Sport webpage it's cca 3,5x more than for Fabia S2000!).
Full gallery of today test in Col de la Teixeta.
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Some details of Ford Fiesta R5.
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On gravel the car seems to be pretty spectacular, also nice sound. The gearbox seems to be really short due to the 5-speed limitation. How much the top speed in the video could be? 170km/h?