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Originally Posted by Starter

Actually F1 has been slowed down several times in the last 10 years or so. The whole grooved tire issue was an attempt to slow the cars down. Outlawing qualifying engines. The requirement to have engines last X number of races is an attempt to slow the cars as well as reduce costs. The new engine regs ditto. That the newer rules were overcome by the engineers fairly soon doesn't eliminate what the intent was.

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I agree about grooved tires, it was more about limiting the parity though then it was to reduce speeds, the others were about reducing costs not limiting speeds and fans flipped out each time. I remember the grooved tires very vividly, fans around the world were outraged. It also wasn't long before speeds were back up.

I ask the same thing, you think Bernie lays there at night and thinks a good way to make more money is to slow the cars down?

The only time F1 slows down is to try and control the ridiculously high costs of achieving Speed.

Indy Car isn't even trying to do that. They are just trying to come out with a replacement car cause the old one was a dog and long in the tooth. They didn't have any sort of mandate as far as speed was concerned. They just screwed up and made a slower car. They can't even say they tried to purposefully make a slower car. They are just lost out at sea.

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Originally Posted by Loneranger

You are the one saying it. Look in the mirror. You are willing to sacrifice speed for cars that you need to lift. What you fail to understand is the solution is both. You need super fast cars that are difficult to drive.

Otherwise just slap on skinnier tires and mandate a certain level of degradation just like Pirelli needs to do in F1. Problem solved. Will that fix anything Gary? They will need to lift, problem solved right.........oh wait WRONG! Or do you agree that is a fix? If your solution is simply to remove full throttle racing, there is a solution. Will it work??? Yes or No???

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Do try to pay attention, I have been very consistent in calling for higher horsepower and less downforce to eliminate the 100% throttle racing.

Gary

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Originally Posted by SarahFan

Indycar: we're NOT 100% throttle!


*why some of you advocate dumbing down the sport is beyond me

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Originally Posted by Loneranger

That's funny! We should get Gary a tshirt and matching ball cap with that slogan.

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So the two of you like 100% throttle racing then? Sorry but that's not racing, its as others have said all about who gets the best draft on the last lap.

Gary

Dumbing down the sport had gotten us to exactly the point were at

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Originally Posted by &quot

The whole grooved tire issue was an attempt to slow the cars down.

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No. ;) This (and many other decisions in F1) have only a political (financial at the bottom) ground. All official statements about slowing down cars, lowering costs are only an eye-wash for the audience. There were of course in the past actual steps for slowing cars (and raising safety) - only after tragic accidents with Senna and Ratzenberger. And some very tiny steps in a period of many years only under the pressure of drivers.

More news...........

AUTO RACING - INDYCAR: New McLaren ECU, Sato, Pagenaud Log Testing Miles At Sebring

I have stated before ,it will be interesting and that is good!

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Originally Posted by garyshell

Do try to pay attention, I have been very consistent in calling for higher horsepower and less downforce to eliminate the 100% throttle racing.

Gary

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YES AND AT THE EXPENSE OF SPEED!

Do try and pay attention........you need them both.

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Originally Posted by garyshell

So the two of you like 100% throttle racing then? Sorry but that's not racing, its as others have said all about who gets the best draft on the last lap.

Gary

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Do try and pay attention......I hate 100% throttle racing.

"Hey Gary.........Gary, Gary, Gary.....why did Penske waste all his time and resources year after year developing new chassis'? Why did Lola? Why did March? Why did Swift? Why did Reynard?

Why did Cosworth waste millions and millions of dollars year after year developing new engines? Why did Honda? Toyota? Judd? Porsche? General Motors? Ford? "

One word ... competition. If they had no incentive to improve, they would sit on their hands.