Osama Bin Laden Is Dead

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Originally Posted by Eki

Sure they are. They are supposed to improve their counter-terrorism intelligence and border security, and check their policies if there's something they could do that so many people weren't so pissed off by their actions.

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And apparently it's not just Muslims who are pissed off. I just read that in Helsinki, a Finnish middle-aged woman attacked a Canadian woman and her daughter yelling she hates Americans.

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Originally Posted by henners88

Its quite amusing to see the arrogance on both sides of this identical stance. Laughable.

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:up:
just caught up on a couple of documentaries, back to back:
"Louis Theroux - America's Most Hated Family In Crisis", on the Phelps Bible-bashing cult nutters, and
"My Brother the Islamist", on a "white brother" British nutter converted to a radical Islam movement in the UK.

Mind boggling.
... and united in their passionate hatred of Obama ;) :p

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Originally Posted by Rollo

Don't forget the horrid horrid Zimbabweans who are secretly plotting to destory the world with hyperinflation.

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Mugabe had a rep at the royal wedding recently , and attended the beautification of John Paul , despite cries of genocide in his country .

They'll turn him into the "villian" when they need a new one .

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Originally Posted by Eki

And apparently it's not just Muslims who are pissed off. I just read that in Helsinki, a Finnish middle-aged woman attacked a Canadian woman and her daughter yelling she hates Americans.

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Back in time , when I was back-packing Europe , I met many who were surprised to find out I was really Canadian .
They had expected me to be an American , simply because I had a Canadian flag on my pack .

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Originally Posted by Rollo

Between 14,000-34,000 civilians have been killed because of attacks in Afghanistan. They're equally as innocent as the 3000 who died in New York.

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While I dispute those numbers I will point out one simple fact that you seem to have missed.

The 3000 people murdered on 9/11 were targeted. Any innocent civilian that maybe was killed in Afghanistan weren't. Collateral damage is the ugly side of war but no country has done more to prevent it than the USA.....NOBODY!!!

It's shocking, but I have to side with antony here...

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

While I dispute those numbers I will point out one simple fact that you seem to have missed.

The 3000 people murdered on 9/11 were targeted. Any innocent civilian that maybe was killed in Afghanistan weren't. Collateral damage is the ugly side of war but no country has done more to prevent it than the USA.....NOBODY!!!

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Actually, the target was the towers. So in a way, the people who happened to be in the towers were collateral damage.

http://www.allgreatquotes.com/osama_...n_quotes.shtml

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God knows it did not cross our minds to attack the towers but after the situation became unbearable and we witnessed the injustice and tyranny of the American-Israeli alliance against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, I thought about it. And the events that affected me directly were that of 1982 and the events that followed -- when America allowed the Israelis to invade Lebanon, helped by the U.S. Sixth Fleet. As I watched the destroyed towers in Lebanon, it occurred to me punish the unjust the same way (and) to destroy towers in America so it could taste some of what we are tasting and to stop killing our children and women.

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It took Bin Laden 19 years to get the towers, so he was more patient than the US was in trying to get Bin Laden.

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Originally Posted by Eki

Actually, the target was the towers. So in a way, the people who happened to be in the towers were collateral damage.

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Are you serious? Really? Are you actually being serious by that statement?
Please tell me it is some kind of weird, quirky, Finnish humor that I don't get.

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

I agree. They (Afgans) are just as evil as those Jews that were living in Germany in the 1930's.

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Oh yes all those honor and revenge killings among the Jews.
Your rhetoric is moronic.

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Originally Posted by henners88

In terms of ethics there doesn't seem to be a vast difference between you and a terrorist who also feels his people are dying as a result of the United States taking up arms against his people in the Middle East. Its quite amusing to see the arrogance on both sides of this identical stance. Laughable.

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Lets see we unfortunately helped them against the Soviets; therefore they murder apprx. 3,000 people in New York City.

Your analogy is foolish.