In Finland R4 is same class (SM2) as NR4 (Lancer, Impreza)
but as we all know
0 entries
I really hoped for some cars.
Riku Tahko promised MINI R4 for 2nd round, 3rd round is next weekend and still no sign of MINI R4...
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In Finland R4 is same class (SM2) as NR4 (Lancer, Impreza)
but as we all know
0 entries
I really hoped for some cars.
Riku Tahko promised MINI R4 for 2nd round, 3rd round is next weekend and still no sign of MINI R4...
r5 havent got to be favoured to be faster from rgt cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
to say the truth rgt are enough favoured compared to everything else,and still slower.
Adam Cup is national car and very popular in many national championships as a perfect starter level. It's not internationally homologated. In fact it even can not be because it doesn't have FIA fuel tank.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
No. Of course you can give it larger restrictor but you can give that to R5 as well. So let's play your game. Let's add more and more air to the engine. Which car will last longer? R4 or R5? R5 of course. So it's not a circular argument. The cars are set to be not only at certain performance level but also on a certain reliability level. The R4 will not be cheap at all if you will rebuild it after every rally because some genius found that with 5 mm larger restrictor it's faster than R5.Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
Even unrestricted GT cars are slower than R5 in 90% of occasions. And these unrestricted half-carbon supercup-based cars are not that cheap you know...Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Well, I am from a country which once used to be called Czechoslovak Socialistic Republic. We used to have this rallysport for everybody here for decades. It worked to some extend. It was really very very cheap. The only issue was that this didn't apply for the top level. Everytime someone appeared who was able to bring himself a used powerful western car and won or a Škoda works team thought that it would be fun to win also at home. So we were still in the same situation like today with one difference. Guess in which period more local drivers made it on the international scene? Yes, today. Not in those days when the sport was cheap but the advance lead to nowhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Of course it was always about money. And it was the most about money at the very beginning of our sport when only the most rich people in the world had some cars. That's why it's called rallye after all.
I wasn't talking about R4 (we have AP4 and it is working well, still not cheap but cheaper than R5 and with more car variety), I was talking about RGT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
R5 cars are running what, >100hp more than the production cars they are based on? Along with totally different drivetrain etc. While some RGT cars are forced to run >100hp less than the production cars despite being heavier than R5 and only 2wd.
If R5 cars are really so much better then you shouldn't need to castrate a 911 GT3 to beat it.
We had here maybe the best ever rally-taylored Porsche of all times with a multiple champion behind the steering wheel. The car had no restrictor. Had 150 Hp more than R5, used carbon parts from the circuit cars, had longer suspension travel and had the shortest ever Porsche sequential gearbox (top speed 210 km/h). It wasn't faster than the R5 cars with comparable drivers and it wasn't cheap for sure (also wasn't reliable). The only occasion when these extreme Porsches were faster than R5 were certain Spanish asphalt events when dry. Otherwise you can find more or less non restricted Porsches in many championships and nowhere they fight with top R5 cars (France, Belgium for example).Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
Though I admit that it ws great fun to watch it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wck5qccy8c
You killed everything childish in me. Let me enjoy it a little bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
EDIT: AUDI already showed us 35+ years ago 4WD cars are just faster than 2WD cars, I'm aware of that. We don't need to prove it anymore, don't You agree;)
We have had abbring here in a 650 bhp porsche gt3, and he was quite a bit slower than the fastest r5 cars.
He was still faster than half of the r5 cars tho.
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results...2018/?s=174004
650 HP GT3?? GT3's do not make that kind of power. Unless it was turbocharged GT2?
You mean 420 BHP..Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
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Big rear wing is back on C3WRC during last week for Rally Mexico Test Days ► http://bit.ly/2ExLafB
The new front is just as important imo. Keeps the car balanced.
+ the Toyota-style mini-wings
i guess they all have updates for Mexico, like always.
but the C3 looks monstrous
C3 has been a bit behind Aero-wise for a while, so clearly an area they have targeted
I didn't put it on the dyno, but that's what they told me.Quote:
Originally Posted by racerx1979
And i have not much trouble believing it. They make 520 hp stock, so i don't see why they would not be able to tune them to over 600hp.
Remember that its not a detuned rgt, its a uptuned national proto. You should be see it live to believe it.
gt3 isnot a turbocharged car,so a bit difficult to extract 80 bhp more from an already pushed atmo engine.
A new 991 GT3 makes 520 hp NA from a 4.0 liter engine. Nobody has been able to make more then 550 using add ons to a new 991 motor. If they are making 650 on an atmospheric engine they would be the first in the world to extract so much power, but honestly it would be nearly impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
The one Abbring was driving has a 3.8 which is making around 450 hp. If they're running a turbo motor from a GT2 then 600-700hp is no problem, but that would not make sense for a detuned RGT.
I've been told by Tim van Parijs it's around 420 bhp. Only the two BMW 1 series have more bhp in Belgian Rallying. The old one around 460-480 and the new one over 500.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
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Motorsport News @MNmotorsport
The main story in this week's MN is news of an FIA crackdown on dangerous rally spectators.
Great to see the FIA finally take action on this matter. About time, and been for a while already.
To quote George W. Bush (don't worry, not my favorite of US presidents): hunt them down.
Paddon interview
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motors...mpionship-snub
WRC Snow round in Canada? https://rallypromoter.ca/rpac-one-year-update/
At the same time, FIA see the Sweden historic event a problem for running the rally https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...den-wrc-future
Antti, the organisation 'rallypromoter.ca" is an organisation consisting of mostly 1 guy who has driven maybe 6 or 7 rallies ever ..little local ones with 13-17 cars, co-driven in a bunch of rallies, and has been an organiser locally of events in his home area..again mostly very small rallies with 13-40 local cars. he has been "media manager" for the Canadian ASN....which means he writes press releases... his other employment is unknown except a time as "used car salesman"...Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
There are some others involved, mainly photographers..
I cannot imagine how in the world that a couple or three complete amateurs with so little experience and with no population base, and barely enough manpower to organise small events could possibly think they could organise a WRC event.....some people more local have suggested that maybe it's just a "cool" way to get other optimistic fans to pay for him to travel for free and watch some WRC events since he seems to have no other source of income...but that is just what a few locals have "wondered aloud"..
I would not place any bets on it ever happening.
Estonia to host promotional rally with WRC entries
https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/marc...0--12-12-.html
What Canadian event would even be a good showcase/test? I've only been to Tall Pines in late November but it's very small compared to the US events I regularly attend.
Perce Neige on the Eastern side and Big White on the Western side could be options. Perce Neige would struggle for hotels for everybody though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
It seems more likely that if Canada were to host a WRC round in the present day it would be in British Columbia. Having said that, Rally Quebec could also be an option with good stages and Quebec City not far away. It was a WRC round in the 70's but I don't know the current state today.
What is a WRC Promotional event? Does it mean that there will be many wrc drivers, or just a few like there were last year in Latvia. Also could that mean that we might see Estonia as an official round of WRC in the future?Quote:
Originally Posted by bomber21
This promotional event is a new concept. Candidate event means the event could become an official WRC round the following year. This is probably not yet possible for Estonia, but this solution is a win-win with interest in the country and also for the teams and drivers as a test for Finland during the summer break.
Means at least 1 car from each team.Quote:
Originally Posted by flykas
But I think we will never get a chance to have a WRC rally in Estonia. As I understood Oliver Ciesla said quite clearly that the plan is to expand outside of Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
It doesn't mean the European rounds would be set in stone.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
I bet that in a few years we'll see Poland back, or Estonia in, at the cost of Tour de Corse, Sardinia and/or Germany.
Well, all the manuf. present with at least one car (could be more) is quite a statement if the event succeeds and teams are happy, last year they were...
Bot what else is great from that news, is that nobody wants to shorten the events anymore by day or half a day.
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...-fan-behaviour
FIA tries to stop badly behaving spectators. One solution is to issue a virtual chicane on a location where spectators are in a dangerous place. So either you back off or see the cars at walking speed...and the stage doesn't have to be canceled, which is always unfair to the spectators who are in a safe place.
If they use the same standards everywhere, we could see a very slow Monte Carlo next year...
What I heard in Sweden was not like that, many teams are again considering Autoglym rally in Finland but we will see...Quote:
Originally Posted by HenryEST
Why not both?
Can’t do two rallies in one weekendQuote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Yes, but they're not in one weekend. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Autoglym 12-13th July
Rally Estonia 12-14th July