Those PSRX Polo's are just so great to watch... poetry in motion.
Great shame for Petter in the Final... but why do they hold them so long after the 'Ready to Race' ?!
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Those PSRX Polo's are just so great to watch... poetry in motion.
Great shame for Petter in the Final... but why do they hold them so long after the 'Ready to Race' ?!
It's supposed to vary to keep the drivers on their toes. I remember Petter thinking he got it figured out a couple of years ago. The timing had been the same all weekend so when they changed the setting for the semi he launched too early. Double joker but he still managed to qualify for the final. Stupid move, he was lucky it worked out.
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Quite simply, it's the biggest RX of the season. They aren't saying that it compares directly with Indy or Le Mans, just that those are the biggest races of their respective disciplines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Bit of a tame one, looked like EuroRX threw up all the drama. Championship is Johan's to lose now and doesn't look like anyone can compete with VW if the Polo gets a car length ahead. Bakkerud and Ekstrom are the only guys that look quick and have a car that has a chance of getting them a win (the 208 is well off the pace this year).
Great to see Dan Rooke get his first win. Not sure he's currently got the raw pace to challenge Raymond properly but Cyril has much more seat time, both in previous seasons and by virtue of doing GRX too. Will be a real shame if Dan can't get the extra funds to do the fly-away rounds, he's got a good position in the championship.
Peugeot Hansen had two cars in the final and a podium, they look better than at the start of the season but yeah, they still have work to do.
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Yeah I know it varies, but its either a long wait, or a very long wait ! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
It must be torture for the driver's and their poor car's being held on the rev-limiter... the wait must seem endless.
Yeah.. Petters problem was caused by standing there long before the ready to race light came on. They suspect that standing out there in the sun with everything heating up caused heat soaking, loss of power and then a stall on the start line. He had used the same settings all weekend so it shouldn't have happened. Johan almost experienced the same,
his car was close to stalling. But that makes for a very good launch.
Backside of being on pole. You stand in the heat for the longest, and the tires cool the most.
Renault Sport in French Rallycross Championship in 2018 : http://www.lemagsportauto.com/rallyc...nt-2018/25454/
Will they back Prodrive's Megane?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sub_Skoda
You can read in the article that this engagement is not related to Guerlain/Prodrive's Project. ;) So, i don't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
Here is a description of Damien Meunier, 16 yrs old... maybe a future driver of WorldRX :
http://www.lemagsportauto.com/rallyc...entueux/25521/
Can we have a Dieselgate sequel? Because it may be the only thing that can save World RX...
Don't hate, it wasn't easy. It's one of the cars on the grid with the shortest development time. The performance they've achieved is very impressive, and rumor has it is because in large part of Petter.
For the excitement of the series we can hope the others are able to catch up.
But keep in mind that Ekstrom won the first three rounds and it looked to be a pretty boring season. Things change quickly.
The shortest development time? Yeah, like from 2011...
As a WRC car yes. There's a lot that changes for rallycross.
Don't be such a drama queen! Sure the VW is hooked up and it looks like both championships are settled, but one season isn't enough to kill the whole seriesQuote:
Originally Posted by macebig
Nico Mueller will drive 4th Audi S1 EKS at Loheac RX : http://www.lemagsportauto.com/rallyc...-loheac/25679/
You are not counting those years which Kristoffersson has driven with Polo as development ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
(I see nothing wrong if VW is dominating, rules are same for every team)
Not really. VW prepped the WRC cars, development was mainly Petter and FX. Kristofferson was amazed how easy it was to drive Petters Citroen quickly, so the old RX Sweden Polo probably wasn't on par.
Both you and I know that the real reason to this year's success and domination is the VW factory backing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
Funny, considering VW gives less support than Audi and Peugeot. VW must be thrilled, they really get value for their euros.
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Originally Posted by BleAivano
Factory backing? Well, I guess you should tell both Solberg and Kristofferson that so they don't have to hunt down money themselves.
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Originally Posted by Myrvold
Audi do not give that much support and also gave later then VW according to Swedish television.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
Here is another article that says that cars and technical support comes from Volkswagen Motorsport in Hannover and that
Volkswagen Motorsport are the ones who have developed and built the Polos while Petter is responsible for the running/management of the team.
http://www.di.se/pressreleaser/2017/...es-dream-team/'
http://www.aftonbladet.se/sportblade...ar-fabriksstod
http://www.expressen.se/motor/motors...cross-vm-2017/
Mattias Ekström have backing from Audi as well but he have used and upgraded version last year's car since Audi's backing came
a bit too late for the start of the season to be put into a new car. This have been mentioned several times by
Jonas Kruse and Johan Ejeborg who runs the Swedish broadcasts from WRX.
Here is an article in which ME says that Audi supports EKSRX financially and with engineers as well as a few people
to help out during competitions. ME also says that the support is welcome but that it came too late.
Quote:
"– Dels får vi ekonomiskt stöd, dels har de jättemånga duktiga ingenjörer som ska hjälpa oss och det är jättevärdefullt.
Dessutom får vi med oss fyra-fem personer som ska hjälpa oss under tävlingarna, säger Ekström.
Han säger att fabriksstödet egentligen hade behövts långt tidigare.
– Många tycker att det är konstigt att vi gjorde det så bra utan stöd och det känns som att det var i sista minuten
som vi fick till det. På sikt hade det varit omöjligt att konkurrera utan det, säger han."
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– Volkswagen har ju avslutat satsningen i rally och tagit de WRC-bilarna till rallycrossen i stället. Med deras erfarenhet och
de bilarna är vi som David mot Goliat. Vi är ett gäng som har en verkstad hemma i Sverige, i Fagersta, och som byggt ett
team med mycket hjärta och passion och plötsligt fått hjälp från fabriken. När det gäller Solbergs stall så är det
ju VW Motorsport som driver teamet. – Jag är stolt över att någon gör det i rallycrossen, för nu får vi mäta oss mot en
värdig motståndare och det är ett gigantiskt steg framåt för rallycrossen med den satsningen.
You two can try to spin this in anyway you want but it is clear that PSWRX have a huge factory backing from
VW motorsport that is much larger then the support EKSRX gets.
https://www.sydsvenskan.se/2017-03-3...trots-mer-stod
look at mechanics at PSWRX team - most of them are from VW WRC team, and cars after each round coming back to VW Motorsport facilities in Hanover for rebuild etc. All development work is done with VW motorsport crew also, and EVERY time cars are coming back to Hanover, not sweden norway or any other place... Thats are Facts - but everyone can interpret them as they wish :)
If the backing of either manufacturers was that considerable then we wouldn't be talking about PSRX or EKSRX. And just because VW cars go back to VW doesn't mean that VW are paying for it ;)
"VW motorsport director Sven Smeets said a greater RX focus for the firm "ties in with our future objectives" after its WRC exit.
"We have been watching rallycross very closely for a while now," Smeets told Motorsport.com's sister title Autosport.
"Obviously we are already working with the Volkswagen Andretti Rallycross team in Global Rallycross – where we had great success with the drivers' and manufacturers' championship titles last year – but we were keen to look more at the FIA World Rallycross Championship for 2017.
"Working in alliance with Petter's team and Volkswagen Sweden, we could make this happen. Petter will run the team and we will provide technical support.
"We will have technicians at the races and we will engineer the car, but the financing and sponsorship of the operation is all down to Petter and Volkswagen Sweden.""
Which basically means that the Solberg-Kristofferson isn't backed, but rather pays for a service.
But cars are prepared and serviced by VW....
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Paid by the Solberg team, which again, is some personal money from Solberg as well. VW doesn't back a team in WRX. They are for hire. Probably to a combination of highest bidder, professional team structure and good plans behind it.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Factory backing = The marque are pro-active, working on it, pushing in money themselves. That's not what VW does. They get expenses covered. To get the technicians and engineers to the races, the Solberg team have to pay for it.
No one said that they weren't, as Myrvold says it's about who's putting up the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Where do you get this all from? VW still uses shit ton of money on WRX to my knowledge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrvold
And imho big teams and money is ruining the whole sport of rallycross. I personally couldn't give a rats ass about who wins the super car heats, its basically all about who is ahead after the first corner.
Is it? I get that WRX is pretty limited, but there's a huge number of people entered for EuroRX in Loheac. Motorsport will always be ruled by the rich, it's the same no matter what level you're at, but I personally think it's positive that the sport is gaining viewers and drivers. I also think that WRX is a bit misguided, but no more so than any other big championship. Look at the WRC and there will be people complaining, look at F1 and it's the same, also Formula E and WEC etc.etc. About the only big world championship I follow that I can't see many complaints about is MotoGP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
The main thing is there is close competition in WRX.
Athough the VW's are winning there are good battles with Audis, Peugeots and various Fords.
I dont see money as being a huge reason regarding who is successful.
VW's are ahead by a mile, Audi and Peugeot might be closer to each others and they would have to invest so freaking much money to even get to VW level. but privateers, guys running last years cars are no where to seen. I personally don't see why any privateer driver would spend that kind of a money to drive practices and first heats to be dropped out of semis, getting no publicity and wasting all their monies for just 40km's of track time or do they even get that?
There is almost always the same guys in the finals (both VW's, maybe Audis and Peugeot unless Bakkerud gets there by miracle) and these are the only guys who are getting any publicity out of the event.
When you pay big money to drive the whole season to not get semis or further when manufacturer teams are not step ahead but 5 steps ahead. Yes there is a money problem. Wouldn't be surprised that WRX is going to lose its spark after couple of years, maybe even after this year.
12 drivers have won WRX rounds in the last 3,5 seasons. Compare that to F1 or WRC.. The last seasons have seen three different teams and cars winning, with Ford Olsbergs, Peugeot-Hansen and EKS. This seasons first eight rounds has seen 7 different drivers on the podium, the same as the Formula 1 after eight rounds. WRC had 8 after eight rounds.
I'm not worried at all.
How about this season?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
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I just told you?
No, I'm asking how many different winners there were this season only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
Edit: I just saw you did mention different podiums, but not wins this year.
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This year, three different winners in World RX, five in WRC and four in Formula 1 (all after eight races).
In World RX there's 35 points between the top and the rest. In WRC it's 41 (but two guys at shared no 1), and in Formula 1 it's 20 points.
So it's pretty even. Also, keep in mind that WRC saw the same boring French guy on the top 9 seasons in a row(!!), and F1 the same guy won it 7 times, and five of those in a row.
That same boring guy now seems genuinely happy and excited to claw his way to a podium in World RX. You didn't see that at all the last years in the WRC.
As I said, I'm not worried. And it's not like we don't get surprises. Like in Canada where a driver that has two P2s and two P3s didn't even make it to the semis. Or when Timo Scheider got P2 (and everyone was really happy for him).
I find World RX much more exciting to watch than the other two.
I actually count 6 different winners for WRC, that`s twice as many as WRX...Quote:
Originally Posted by Alpha
It's five. Not really sure where you get the last guy from, but..
No you clearly did not understood what I and some others are trying to say. These VW cars are massively better than the rest of the field, which gives both Petter and Kristofferson huge advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Myrvold
You all want to downplay VW knowledge and skills and play it on Petter's hands as he is singlehandedly running everything and of course he's the best car developer in the world. Not quite so, the car is giving them a chance to be in the limelight = more cash. It's all about tech these days and VW was the best in WRC and is the best in WRX. Simple. It's a good deal for Petter!
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