Roger McCluskey
Eagle Ford
1966
Indy?
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Roger McCluskey
Eagle Ford
1966
Indy?
yeppers
Driver, Car, Track, Year
Bonus points for naming any other car! ;)
Got me on this one, although the first car looks again McLaren-ish, mid-70's I'd say, I don't know why we'd see the USAC Champ dirt/sprint type rigs on the same track...
I figure the days of seeing front engined rigs compete against RE cars, ala Indianapolis Raceway Park road course or Milwaukee, were pretty much over by the time McLarens came along.
Obviously, this image is a well-done Photoshop forgery! ;)
McLaren is correct. As Phoenixent would say, "Keep Digging!" :)
That looks likethe Red Roof Inns McLaren that Vern Schuppan drove - How about Pocono in 1980 where they started some dirt track cars atthe USAC race to fill the field.....
Actually, it is Pocono i 1981 with Schuppan in a McLarne Cosworth....
To think, they used dirt cars to fill the field but they still had 21 (by my count) "real" indycars in the field... Perhaps the IRL and OWRS can leanr from this can you imagine a WoO car at Long Beach??? :)
That's it! They were embarrassed to only have 21 cars so 8 Silver Crown cars filled out the field to make it a more respectable 29. It would prove to be AJ Foyt's last win as a driver. THis was back during the original "split", and Tom Sneva, Vern Schuppan, and Geoff Brabham "crossed the picket line" so to speak. It seems to have been a pretty good race, Foyt and Sneva swapped the lead 7 or 8 times before Sneva dropped out on lap 79, and then Geoff Brabham and Tom Bigelow joined in, and Foyt took the lead from Brabham 3 laps before rain shortened the race at 122 laps. Mark Alderson was the highest placed Silver Crown car 18 laps down. That's Smokey Snellbaker in the #54, and I can't identify the other driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris R
pretty interesting stuff.... I wonder what the pace car is - almost looks like an Opel Manta or maybe an early Mazda RX-7....
I guess it just goes to show that history repeats itself - however what is more absurd - filling a field with dirt track cars or running 17???
AJ did go on to do some winning in sports cars - but it was a bit of an odd last Indycar win for a storied career...
ok - here's hte next one - I jsut have to hope I can rememberthe details!!! :D it has been sitting on my computer for a while....
Oh yeah, I forgot, he won the 24 hours of Daytona 2 years in a row. You know, for as huge a fan of Foyt as I was, I only ever saw him win 2 races on tv, those two races. I was too young/not paying attention before that. (not to mention not even born yet for a big chunk of his career.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris R
Alex, you and me both - AJ was my racing hero when I was growing up - but he was already past his prime...
I am not sure I even saw him win a race on TV. I do rember being pretty pumped about his start at Indy in 1981 and the first couple of "real" laps of the 1982 race after he beat his car with a hammer and led the race on the shear power of anger.... I think the start of the 1982 race really showed me the extent of his talent/determination even if it was a short lived incident...
I saw him race at the Meadowlands in 1984 and Portland in 1990 - but it was actually kind of sad by that point....
It looks like Dan Gurney in the Lotus Ford #91, and Rodger Ward in the Watson RE Ford, but I cannot find any record of those two cars being on the same track at the same time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris R
Nope, not Ward, or a Watson - a little later than that.... I do not think the otehr driver is Gurney either
Drivers- Car #1 Mario Andretti and Car #91 Mike Mosley
Year- 1967
Car- Car #1 Brawner Hawk-Ford and Car #91 Watson-Ford
Track- Trenton
I gotta say guys , I shouldn't have posted this one because I have totally lost my source for it!!
I think it is 1966 (the 1967 Brawner had little winglets on the nose) and the best I can figure it Phoenix in the Fall and that is Bobby Unser in a Gerhardt-Ford next to Mario...
If someone can re-verify for me that would be cool - sorry for the faux-pas!! :(
Anyhow, since Phoenix got in the ballpark you are up!!
Driver, Car, & Year
:) Looks can be deceiving. :)
http://shutter13.pictures.aol.com/da...0lfUDP0190.jpg
1980
Penske PC-9
Mario Andretti
Maybe?
It looks like a Phoenix or Wildcat (same car??) - In MArio Andretti's 1980 colors - maybe it was in late 1980 when he was switching to Patrick....
Cool photo!
You are Correct. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris R
This photo was of the Phoenix which word was made by Williams. Don't know for sure but some one will.
Your Turn.
I just checked the 1980 Indy 500 yearbook - this looks like the car they called a Wildcat PR-001. The Phoenix (or at least what they called a Phoenix at Patrick Racing) looked different - alot like the Longhorn that was supposedly pretty much a Williams FW07....
If I recall correctly, you (Phoenix) said that the 1981 Coyote was actually a re-worked 1980 Wildcat...
There was a lot of car building and badging going on in the early 1980's - can anybody shed any light on the stories behind these cars....
To add my own little story - Tom Sneva did an off-season PR appearance at a local K-Mart in 1981 or 1982 (I am thinking it was before he won the 500 - so winter of 81-82). He had a car there (the first Indycar I ever saw up close) - being the sharp-eyed young fan - I asked him if it was a Phoenix or March (it had a Phoenix nose but somewhere on the car was a March nameplate) - he said it was a Phoenix/March combo that George Bignotti had put together.... maybe it was just a show car... Anyway, he was a real nice guy and very accomodating to all of the young fans there....
I'll have a picture tomorrow....
ok, this is just a car and driver photo.....
Bruce McLaren (L) and Chris Amon (R) ???
Driver(s) are right - how about the car??
Car-Mclaren M15-Offy
Year-1970
Phoenix has the second part of the puzzle. Phoenix, it is your turn unless you want to pass the turn to SoCalPVGuy since he got part 1.......
It's really odd to see Mario in an Essex-sponsored champ car. Essex sponsored Lotus F1 a year too late -- after Mario won the championship with JPS livery.
Great pic! It's interesting to see a car with a rear wing ahead of the rear wheels.
I'll try and see if I can insert a photo...
Here is an oldie...
Year, Driver, Track, and type of car (not mfgr. "-" Special)
http://transfers.mep-llc.com/files/e96e_1.JPG
I am gong to guess Duane Carter in a Levosky-Offy at Indy in 1951. It was the Belanger Special...
Chris that is such a good answer I almost hate to tell you 'wrong year' (my source says '52). Close enough for me, how did you find this one out, was it that easy ?
You are up for the next on !!!
opps, I meant 1952 anyway - thanks! It was a fairly easy one to deduce - I was pretty confident that it was the Belanger Special Oike the one that Lee Wallard won with in 1951 - so after that it was just a matter of finding when the Belanger and #1 were together and who the driver was... Amazing that just before the roadsters started their run that a straight out dirt track car won the 500.... great photo!
ok, here's the next.... you only have ot et the clearly visible car, track, year, driver.....
1995
Paul Tracy
Newman-Haas / Lola / Ford
Phoenix?
The blurred driver could be Adrian Fernandez?
Everything is right except the track - although you are in the right size and configuration range....
I think you are probably right about Fernandez - but it is kind of blurry to tell for sure and I was not sure if the Herdez car had similar colors....
nazareth then?
Milwaukee
no and no - we are running out of short ovals huh??
new hampshire
bob has it!! your turn!
the usual please....
Jan Magnussen (in for Paul Tracy)
Mid-Ohio
Penske-Ilmor-Goodyear PC-25
1996