Ferrari/McLaren Espionage Story [merged]

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

you're quite sad really aren't you?

this is something that is affecting the sport of F1 and could lead to long term damage within F1 but you just want to gloat and score little points.

If McLaren were involved in this, then the FIA needs to take firm action against them but as with a lot of the rumours surrounding Ferrari, lets just hope this is unfounded.

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Oh, please. You don't see this as great karma after years of accusing Ferrari of everything under the sun?

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Originally Posted by Hendersen

Can't wait till it all pans out and I get to plaster it all over the Hamilton wikipedia

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Why bother? Will you be paid?? :p :

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Originally Posted by Flat.tyres

...this is something that is affecting the sport of F1 and could lead to long term damage within F1...

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:up: A point worth remembering while all of this rumbles on. Whatever the outcome this has already damaged this year's championships, largely because people are making assumptions based on speculation.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

:up: A point worth remembering while all of this rumbles on. Whatever the outcome this has already damaged this year's championships, largely because people are making assumptions based on speculation.

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I suppose we're all guilty of that to some extent.

the FACTS as reported lead us to assume there is a great deal going on along similar lines to what has been reported. I'm not sure of Nigels role in this as yet but Mike looks like he's buried up to the neck.

If I'm honest, I hoped that there was no substance to this but I see the FIA actually charging McLaren as a significant move forward and cant help but think that it's because of the information supplied by Mike.

Ron wont know what is in that affadavit because for legal reasons Mike would be excommunicated and this is so high profile that nobody would have had a little word in his shell-like. Mike, if he had any sense, would disclose everything and cover his own arse.

as they say in Star Wars, "I have a very bad feeling about this". Somehow, I see the walls closing in on McLaren and hope they haven't got their fingers caught in the cookie jar.

if they have, then I wont stop supporting them but will be bitterly dissapointed and expect the FIA to, quite rightly, throw the book at them.

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Originally Posted by Malllen

Why bother? Will you be paid?? :p :

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Why do you care? You going to write my biography?

wise words from an ald hand here. I agree with DC

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/60760

http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,1895...495698,00.html

McLaren could face expulsion from this year's Championship if found guilty of espionage by the FIA.

With the Woking's fate hanging in the balance following Thursday's announcement that the FIA had charged them in the ongoing 'spy' scandal, reports of possible punishments facing the team do not make for comfortable reading if you are a McLaren supporter - or driver.

'McLaren may face expulsion from this year's Formula One World Championship, destroying Lewis Hamilton's title challenge, if they are found guilty of industrial espionage,' claims The Guardian.

However, the newspaper seriously doubts that such a 'draconian penalty' will be enforced. 'The likelihood of McLaren being found guilty of a major offence seems distant at this moment. Although the FIA has the capacity to inflict the most draconian penalty of all, such a step would be unusual in the extreme.'

It has, though, happened in the past.

In 1984, the long-defunct Tyrrell team was excluded from the World Championship over a technical infringement. Tyrrell, though, is the only outfit since F1 Championship started in 1950 to suffer that fate.

However, Article 153, which McLaren are charged with breaching, provides for punishment ranging from a reprimand to disqualification, according to the Independent. And so far 'the FIA have refused to rule out any of the penalties.'

McLaren, though, could face other huge loses should they be excluded from the Championship as sponsors Vodafone, Santander, and Johnnie Walker will not want their sponsorship logos "parked in garages while the Formula One circus goes on', notes The Times.

Either, whatever the outcome is, many in the British media are predicting the end of Lewis Hamilton's title charge as even if McLaren aren't found guilty, the next weeks are set to be a difficult time for the Woking team and its drivers

What insanity. This is dampening a very-good season in the post-Michael era... :(

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Originally Posted by wmcot

So counting the original discs, he either had 2 or 3 copies of the 780 pages. The big question that brings me to is why did he need to copy it and who were the extra copies for?

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So he prints it at home and then sends his wife down to the local shops to copy more. For a man that has risen to the position of chief designer of a major F1 team he doesn't strike me as someone who is very bright.

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Originally Posted by akv89

McLaren could face expulsion from this year's Championship if found guilty of espionage by the FIA.

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Of course, that one makes good headlines in the press ;)