Hamilton: Maybe it's because I'm black

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

How would it (or wouldn't it) work, if an incident is presided over by all the drivers bar those involved, and a consensus of opinion derived like that, with a clear written statement from each driver supporting their decision?

Obviously, the decision being derived after the race!!!!!!!!

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I’d be Ok with that. There would probably have to be three options. Is it A’s fault, B’s fault or Racing Incident. Each driver the chooses from a piece of paper
Advantages:
A general good consensus from people within the sport and in touch with modern era ethics of what is acceptable or not.
It would be more consistent.
If one driver holds a gripe against another and simply decides to vote the other way then their vote would be negated by all other honest drivers.

Disadvantages:
There are too many incidents in one race to make this feasible.
None of the drivers would probably waste their time participating, as they already have a busy schedule.
All incidents would have to be investigated after the race, thus pretty much removing drive through penalties. This could result in many winners, podium and point changes post race.
What could be done is to have a few ex drivers as all the stewards room, say a panel of five and they choose themselves whose fault it was or a racing incident and the majority rules.
The main issue there would be to manage to get 5 ex drivers to steward any race.

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Originally Posted by barryfullalove

Di Resta is a great example of this. He pulled a stupid move and lost his nose, in addition to the time lost he also had to pit, yet the stewards still felt he deserved a drive through. As a rookie driver who has behaved impeccably to date I think that a quiet word after the race would've sufficed. The real piss take was when Kobayashi wasn't penalised during the race for a far more obvious infringement

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I think Kobayashi escaped because of what happened not long after (as a result of what he did!)

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Oh my word. He didn't even need his mirrors to see the vodafone symbol on the Mclaren's front wing on his right side, yet he still turned in, also after weaving twice on the main straight.

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Originally Posted by X-ecutioner

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Oh my word. He didn't even need his mirrors to see the vodafone symbol on the Mclaren's front wing on his right side, yet he still turned in, also after weaving twice on the main straight.

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What a dirty driver! When the road kinks right he goes right! He should have crashed into the wall like a good driver :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Daniel

What a dirty driver! When the road kinks right he goes right! He should have crashed into the wall like a good driver :rolleyes:

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I know! Right? I also like how he displays how to properly use your ears, eyes and the rear view mirror. Obviously Hamilton should have just teleported from the side to the back of Maldonado again, since a successful overtaking is OBVIOUSLY 100% the chasing driver's responsibility. Damon Hill surely effed up his championship in 94 all by himself.

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Originally Posted by X-ecutioner

I know! Right? I also like how he displays how to properly use your ears, eyes and the rear view mirror. Obviously Hamilton should have just teleported from the side to the back of Maldonado again, since a successful overtaking is OBVIOUSLY 100% the chasing driver's responsibility. Damon Hill surely effed up his championship in 94 all by himself.

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And Villeneuve should have been penalised for overtaking Schumacher into dry sac in 97 Jerez. Their coming together was clearly his fault. Schumacher should have 9 championships.

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Originally Posted by X-ecutioner

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Oh my word. He didn't even need his mirrors to see the vodafone symbol on the Mclaren's front wing on his right side, yet he still turned in, also after weaving twice on the main straight.

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Dude, Hammys front wheel almost hit Mouldys rear wheel. He was also running out of space with the approaching right hand corner, which is why his whole car went over the kerb. I agree that Mouldy swerved twice down the straight which is supposed to be illegal, but when they got to the corner, it was only going to end in tears. Hammy should not have been where he was.

Now I am a big fan of Hammys driving and his gutsy overtakes (I think he is the best in F1 when it comes to overtaking) but on Sunday he was a complete idiot. Its like someone hit his Sato switch just before the start.

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Originally Posted by 555-04Q2

Dude, Hammys front wheel almost hit Mouldys rear wheel. He was also running out of space with the approaching right hand corner, which is why his whole car went over the kerb. I agree that Mouldy swerved twice down the straight which is supposed to be illegal, but when they got to the corner, it was only going to end in tears. Hammy should not have been where he was.

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He pulled virtually an identical move on Schumacher that ended fine, in fact it was supreme driving from both of them.

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Originally Posted by X-ecutioner

Damon Hill surely effed up his championship in 94 all by himself.

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Damon admitted in an interview a few years after he retired that yes, he had indeed messed up by trying to pass The Shoe in Oz 94. He said if he knew The Shoe had just gone off he would have waited until after the corner and tried. The Shoe placed his car in the corner and Damon ploughed into the side of him. The rest as they say is History.

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Originally Posted by barryfullalove

He pulled virtually an identical move on Schumacher that ended fine, in fact it was supreme driving from both of them.

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Yes, but if you watch the race again you will see that at the corner entry Hammy was closer to The Shoe than he was to Mouldy, which is why the one worked out and the other didn't.