Your opinion on 'Drag Reduction System'

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I don't agree that the tyres were causing all of the speed differential.

Again we're taking a bad example and making it the rule. DRS was overpowered in turkey and because of this I'm sure they'll turn it down (perhaps too far even) for other races.

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I am not making it up , Daniel .
Alonso said it was down to the tires , and it makes sense .

You don't get close by using the DRS , you get by , by using it .

The wings are still fat in the turns in the race , and the cars have thier normal differences in speed , just like in the past when we had a tire war .
The fuel goes down at roughly the same rate .
All is about the same , but for the tires .

That same hole in the air that makes it difficult to get close enough for a pass , DRS or no DRS , but the tires are making it possible right now .

In my humble opinion , the tires are making this device look much better to some than it really is .

Take it away , and after a very short while , I don't think either of us would miss it .

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Originally Posted by wedge

Instead of the genie in the bottle excuse (though I find it astonishing FOTA fully advocate DRS for 2013 onwards) here's an idea: get rid of DRS and tweak KERS instead.

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But what would the difference really be? KERS allows cars to both attack and defend and in most cases only those cars not running KERS suffer a real disadvantage when the following driver uses it. So it gives both cars a speed boost which often results in nothing at all. At least with DRS the driver overtaken has the chance to fight back on the next lap if they are actually as quick through the course as the driver that overtook them.

I just don't see all the anger over DRS. KERS to some extent did the same thing, since many teams didn't use it or had issues with it. Thus far DRS has worked for everyone the majority of the time. I agree it's a bandaid as compared to limiting the aero of the cars, but I can't see the FIA changing the "formula" quickly given the time and money the teams have invested in the aero construction.

Much like Sonic I accept that it is here and won't go away quickly.

And I also disagree that the use of DRS ensures a pass. There have been quite a few uses of DRS lap after lap that didn't result in the pass being made.

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Originally Posted by airshifter

I just don't see all the anger over DRS. KERS to some extent did the same thing, since many teams didn't use it or had issues with it. Thus far DRS has worked for everyone the majority of the time. I agree it's a bandaid as compared to limiting the aero of the cars, but I can't see the FIA changing the "formula" quickly given the time and money the teams have invested in the aero construction.

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All I can say is that it must have slept with their wives/girlfriends :confused:

Agree about the bandaid thing :)

Instead of "banning" DRS at Monaco, why not ban Monaco? Dreadful circuit which is only on the calendar because of its history and marketing potential. If Tilke designed a Monaco now, in 2011, we'd form an orderly queue to throw rotting fruit at him.

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Originally Posted by Dave B

Instead of "banning" DRS at Monaco, why not ban Monaco? Dreadful circuit which is only on the calendar because of its history and marketing potential. If Tilke designed a Monaco now, in 2011, we'd form an orderly queue to throw rotting fruit at him.

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Agreed.

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Originally Posted by wedge

+1 to what Bagwan said.

Instead of the genie in the bottle excuse (though I find it astonishing FOTA fully advocate DRS for 2013 onwards) here's an idea: get rid of DRS and tweak KERS instead.

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I agree with getting rid of DRS and using more KERS, the problem is that DRS is a dirt cheap solution compared to further improving the use of KERS.

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Originally Posted by Dave B

Instead of "banning" DRS at Monaco, why not ban Monaco? Dreadful circuit which is only on the calendar because of its history and marketing potential. If Tilke designed a Monaco now, in 2011, we'd form an orderly queue to throw rotting fruit at him.

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Disagreed.

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

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Disagreed.

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+ 1.

If tilke designed the place now, he'd flatten the hill, install run off all the way to the med and generally suck the life out of one of the greatest challenges of a GP driver. You only need look at the list of winners to know that this place favours the greats - oh and Panis ;)

Senna\Mansell Monaco 1992.

http://www.streetfire.net/video/senn...o-gp_71309.htm

DRS would have been so wrong... not that it would certainly have helped Mansell.

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Originally Posted by ioan

I agree with getting rid of DRS and using more KERS, the problem is that DRS is a dirt cheap solution compared to further improving the use of KERS.

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And it is a significant problem, because one represents the future far better than the other.