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Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part II)
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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Don't be the typical forum-slut and pretend you are innocent and offended.
No, I'm not stupid enough to do that. All I have done is reconsider my opinion of you. After all, the only difference between you and me is that I gave you the benefit of the doubt. You, on the other hand, assumed that I knew nothing and then you assumed that whatever knowledge I had was faulty or insufficient. The least you can do is give me credit for attempting to educate myself on the subject.
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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Yoourr first response was answered IN THE EXACT TONE IN WHICH YOU POSTED: PURE CONTEMPT..
The funny thing about tone is that it's a spoken component of language. And since this is an internet forum and everything is typed, inflection is impossible. So I am curious as to how you came to the conclusion that I was being contemptuous based on a single post where I pointed out that your argument may be flawed when you are relying on forty year-old information. You were the who then (repeatedly) called me a child, claimed that whatever knowledge I had of the subject was useless, and suggested that any attempt to educate myself would be futile unless I accepted your word as gospel.
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I see the Festive season is upon us again, given the amount of `Festive Cheer` in the last batch of posts. Come on people , it`s only `Rallying` lets wish each other a `Happy Christmas`! Go Kris and Elfyn 2014.
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Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part II)
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Originally Posted by Mirek
Exactly. I believe it's true there was an objection but I'm far from blaming anyone for it without knowing EXACTLY what's going on. It's sacred right of any team to appeal and it's up to FIA to decide whether such objection is soundly based.
I believe it is better that objections are raised now rather than mid season. By having the objection resolved before the 2014 season starts, everyone can then get on with rallying on an agreed criteria. To me it seems objecting pre season is a more professional action than waiting to raise objections once Kubica begins scoring championship points
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Wow this thread as fallen apart. Get on with it guys. There are a few of us that want to discuss rallying. Not read a pathetic argument. Maybe call one and other over by pm. Or maybe wonder why this place is getting quieter.
Steve
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Originally Posted by big_sw2000
Wow this thread as fallen apart. Get on with it guys. There are a few of us that want to discuss rallying. Not read a pathetic argument. Maybe call one and other over by pm. Or maybe wonder why this place is getting quieter.
Steve
Thank you Steve, I expect you are representative of the 'silent majority'. While I have no wish to stifle public debate on issues of general interest, I agree that any further acrimony between parties re. Asian manufacturer capabilities etc is confined to PMs - further posts on the matter will be deleted unless impersonal and adding to the debate.
(Sent from my Sunday morning bathtub!)
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So back to original quote starting the "Asian-car-manufacturers-successes in recent-times-or-not", that next year will be exciting with Hyundai coming up as new factoryteam and all the changes in drivers seats... :)
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VW is protesting against the modification for Kubica??
http://www.rally-mania.cz/news.php?id=15292
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Originally Posted by mousti
If that is true-let them be ashamed....
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Interesting how I was bashed/mocked last week when I suggested this may happen with regard to the Kubica situation.
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Despite the protest that VW Motorsport made against the changes made for Kubica, it seems that FIA decided that therer is nothing wrong with these changes and it doesn't give him some advantage. The changed Fiesta WRC will be homologated as planned.
Source: http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/wm ... index.html
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Didn't the whole paddle shift with delay for Kubica thing get approved last year? He tested with Ford/M-Sport and they were rumoured to be interested in having him do the WRC for them, then he ended up in WRC-2 in an RRC. The issue should be dead and buried by now. But then I suppose you are free to protest something in the rules which you feel isn't actually leveling the playfield... not that I agree with the protest
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Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part II)
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Originally Posted by Jack4688`
Didn't the whole paddle shift with delay for Kubica thing get approved last year? He tested with Ford/M-Sport and they were rumoured to be interested in having him do the WRC for them, then he ended up in WRC-2 in an RRC. The issue should be dead and buried by now. But then I suppose you are free to protest something in the rules which you feel isn't actually leveling the playfield... not that I agree with the protest
I'm under the impression after reading the link, there is no delay on the paddle shift, as it makes the handbrake to complicated. Or have I read it wrong
Steve
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[quote=big_sw2000]
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Originally Posted by "Jack4688`":2yyfg0fm
Didn't the whole paddle shift with delay for Kubica thing get approved last year? He tested with Ford/M-Sport and they were rumoured to be interested in having him do the WRC for them, then he ended up in WRC-2 in an RRC. The issue should be dead and buried by now. But then I suppose you are free to protest something in the rules which you feel isn't actually leveling the playfield... not that I agree with the protest
I'm under the impression after reading the link, there is no delay on the paddle shift, as it makes the handbrake to complicated. Or have I read it wrong
Steve[/quote:2yyfg0fm]
I thought kubica had to push the hand brake instead of pull. Of course I have to read things through a translator often so I could be wrong about that.
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Originally Posted by wwbroe
Despite the protest that VW Motorsport made against the changes made for Kubica, it seems that FIA decided that therer is nothing wrong with these changes and it doesn't give him some advantage. The changed Fiesta WRC will be homologated as planned.
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http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/wm ... index.html
So it was just a storm in a teacup...
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[quote=big_sw2000]
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Originally Posted by "Jack4688`":gwgzrfh5
Didn't the whole paddle shift with delay for Kubica thing get approved last year? He tested with Ford/M-Sport and they were rumoured to be interested in having him do the WRC for them, then he ended up in WRC-2 in an RRC. The issue should be dead and buried by now. But then I suppose you are free to protest something in the rules which you feel isn't actually leveling the playfield... not that I agree with the protest
I'm under the impression after reading the link, there is no delay on the paddle shift, as it makes the handbrake to complicated. Or have I read it wrong
Steve[/quote:gwgzrfh5]
As I understood it, with paddle shift delay handbraking is more difficult. But I suppose that protest doesn't matter anymore as FIA approved the homologation.
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According to the article of rallye-magazin.de which wwbroe posted two hours back there was no protest at all, only a request for clarification of things.
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If it was VW who protest against Kubica's car arrangements, I am sure its Ogier who complained :P. I really don't like his attitude overall.
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Originally Posted by Frostmourne
If it was VW who protest against Kubica's car arrangements, I am sure its Ogier who complained :P. I really don't like his attitude overall.
As Mirek said, the article says (quoting Malcolm Wilson) Josh wanted just clarification of the rules. The protest was just a rumour from yesterday.
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Originally Posted by Frostmourne
If it was VW who protest against Kubica's car arrangements, I am sure its Ogier who complained :P. I really don't like his attitude overall.
A bit of the pot calling the kettle black ?
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Originally Posted by makinen_fan
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Originally Posted by Frostmourne
If it was VW who protest against Kubica's car arrangements, I am sure its Ogier who complained :P. I really don't like his attitude overall.
As Mirek said, the article says (quoting Malcolm Wilson) Josh wanted just clarification of the rules. The protest was just a rumour from yesterday.
Really happy that it only was a stupid rumour!
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[quote=TyPat107]
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Originally Posted by big_sw2000
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Originally Posted by "Jack4688`":27q256ob
Didn't the whole paddle shift with delay for Kubica thing get approved last year? He tested with Ford/M-Sport and they were rumoured to be interested in having him do the WRC for them, then he ended up in WRC-2 in an RRC. The issue should be dead and buried by now. But then I suppose you are free to protest something in the rules which you feel isn't actually leveling the playfield... not that I agree with the protest
I'm under the impression after reading the link, there is no delay on the paddle shift, as it makes the handbrake to complicated. Or have I read it wrong
Steve
I thought kubica had to push the hand brake instead of pull. Of course I have to read things through a translator often so I could be wrong about that.[/quote:27q256ob]
You´re right, he has tu pull it.
Gear shift lever is on the left side of the steering wheel.
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Originally Posted by WUff1
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Originally Posted by TyPat107
I thought kubica had to push the hand brake instead of pull...
You´re right, he has tu pull it...
Um, conflicting statements here. Does he pull or push?
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Everyone pulls, he pushes in my understanding
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Originally Posted by makinen_fan
Everyone pulls, he pushes in my understanding
thats right.
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just a suggestion... I think it would be nice the news and rumours thread to have an annual restart... now it is hard to read through 700+ pages to find the news/rumours from previous years.
this thread dates from 2008..
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Re: [WRC] News & rumours (part II)
Third part of News & rumours thread has started. Link is HERE