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Aaah yes i remember now. Thanks :)
For a laugh, go back 1 year on this forum and check out the rumours.
According to this, Robert will drive privateer Polo WRC next year:
http://www.sportti.com/uutinen.asp?CAT=1-2&ID=254168
I don't know how reliable is that.
A red herring perhaps?Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
Pontus Tidemand on a hunt for money to make a WRC start in Rally Sweden. Half the budget already cleared and no worry about the rest, Pontus said today in swedish newspaper.
The best of WRC 2013 by André Lavadinho here: http://ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=1429 ... f-WRC-2013 :eek:
244 photos
Rajdu Polski '14: first special stage in Lithuania - http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... D0%B0.html
http://bgnrc.info/cache/com_zoo/imag...ead976e77c.jpg
Great times with many Swedish drivers, Sweden WRT project failled, and now the site are out. What a mess. Why they choose MINI? Other car can help the young talented swedish drivers.
http://ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=143 ... Rally-1972
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.n...93512018_n.png
Well, it seems that Kubica has already signed with Ford.
Really? Great news :lips:
At least it´s said he starts at Jänner Rallye with Fiesta R5.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kielder
Kubica and Ostberg at Ford, Mikko to stay at Citroen then?
Maybe Lotos offered to sponsor M-Sport in return for a full season for Robert, which Citroen could not accept because of Total?
maybe kubica will share his fiesta next year?
M-Sport and Ford have had a very longstanding (and very deep) relationship with BP / Castrol. It's a huge business-to-business deal between Ford and BP.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
This would mean that would have to disappear.
And probably any chance of Ford coming back.
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Originally Posted by RS
How come Östberg at M-Sport ??? I thought he was going to Citroën :confused:
But do Ford have much say in how things are run in Cumbria any more, and do BP actually contribute any cash or is it just free oil? :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfiend
There is no confirmation either way, we will know more a week tomorrow. But I am surprised that Citroen don't seem to have started testing for Monte yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom206wrc
Citroen's testing budget has already been severely reduced this year. I am sure they will do a day or so each for each driver in January.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
I guess tit is stil Hirvonen/Ostberg for M-Sport 1 and Kubica for M-Sport 2 team. They can have different sponosr there.
Citroen does not know 100% who is going to drive for them next year yet.. so.. it is hard to start testing..
Do you have a link of this news / rumour?Quote:
Originally Posted by WUff1
I believe that Robert could be the center of the team :D .Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...ps22ecd268.jpg
AFAIK, Evans will have his opportunity too.
So if kubica is at msport is this maybe what we are looking at atm
VW: Ogier,Latvala, Mikklesen
Msport:Hirvonen, Ostberg??, Kubica, Nasser/ Evans
Citroen: Meeke, no idea...Ostberg??
Hyundai: Neuville, Hanninen/ Sordo
https://www.facebook.com/jaennerrallye?fref=ts
Posting by Motorsport Island - should start with Fiesta R5 at Jänner Rallye.
http://ereader.autotouring.at/reader/au ... 2013/12#44 top right article - translation: Kubica will start at Jänner Rallye (no word of car).
Hope Østberg has a deal with Citroen, the season in MSport did not work for him. He showed the speed in 12, so that is proven.
I have lost faith in MSport for a World Title.
Depends, this year has hampered his chances big time- disastrous year for him. Lucky he still has money though, and yes he maybe just had a bad year and will be back nearer the top next year but i doubt he has that raw pace. Citroen would be the best solution for him imo if he finds a drive. But with Citroen having seeminly signed meeke already, that suggests that they might not be keen on Mads despite his money- or maybe he could be #2 :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Ostberg failed not MSport. Neuville did far better in the same car. You should have lost faith in Ostberg winning a title, not MSport. Mads is still overall a 2nd tier driver, and always will be. I hope Citroen dont pick someone like Ostberg who doesnt have much scope for improvement.
I disagree. Mads shows consistence and some speed. The car have many issues early this season and affect his confidence. Hope see him next year with "new" faith.
I can't believe how people on this forum are bashing Ostberg so much. It's this football culture of one bad season and kick him out. Coming into this year I felt he deserved his place at M-Sport and that Novikov hadn't really done much to deserve his (all sponsorship factors aside), but come the end of the year neither had really done badly enough to be cast out of the team.
Why after one bad season - where a lot of it was to do with reliability issues and bad luck, at the start of the season at least - has Ostberg 'blown it' at M-Sport. If I were Malcolm Wilson I'd want Ostberg to stay and give him another chance. As for Novikov he should keep his seat there only if no other options are available - he would probably be behind Hirvonen, Ostberg, Evans & Kubica in the pecking order.
People make mistakes and have dips in form and there'll be no driving talent left if anybody finishing lower than 5th in the championship loses their drive!
I guess people wouldn't be saying the things about Ostberg, if T. Neuville wouldn't had achieved such results as he did in the same car.
But perhaps Neuville is just that good. Nobody was expecting a non-Factory Ford to finish 2nd in the championship...
The cars being hugely different competitive wise is a laughable myth. There really isnt a great big difference between the different cars :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack4688`
Maybe, performancewise the cars are pretty similar, but getting them set up to suit you and get confidence is a chemistry thing. Not always easy to get all issues to fit together!
Østberg were pretty pissed off many times during 2013, and has doubt first snuk up on you, it is hard to kick out again!
Ostberg very well deserves a place in any team. However at the same time you´d need to realise that MW doesn´t hire the drivers to pay them salary. He takes the one who pays. 2013 there where three paying drivers at MSport: TN, MO and EN.
Best for MO is to stay at Ford if they come up to a deal. Maybe Ostbergs hope for a paid drive at Citroen, I don´t know. He would deserve that as well, though maybe the Citroen car is a bit more difficult to handle.
My tip: Mikko and Mads at Citroen.
Bad luck for Ostberg is going faster and crashing???? :)
He is like Hirvonen, he has his speed limit....:(, I don't think Citroen take him...
Doon +1
Seems MW don't count on Mads to lead the team, as some may have hoped. Hope that Robert stays in rallying and goes to M-Sport
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111786
And Mikko to stay at Citroen sounds more likely now.Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
I am sure Kubica can have a great future in rallying but team leader is maybe a lot to ask!
lol Kubica for nr 1....Malcolm desperate for money.
There is no doubt in my mind that Kubica will be quicker than the likes od Novikov and Ostberg after one full season, and obviously Malcolm thinks the same. Kubica has more to offer in that he has far more room for improvement. Tanak and Meeke are another two have this same capacity, although neither have the £££'s. I still think that Kubica and Hirvonen would be the right team for M-Sport right now, one driver to score plenty of points and one to develop, and with Evans on the back burner.
I really have nothing against either of them, but Ostberg and Novikov are not future champions of the sport and will never be able to fight with Ogier/Neuville. I reckon both will continue to pay for their seat, whether it be in a Ford or Citroen.
[quote] My tip: Mikko and Mads at Citroen. [quote]
Will only be one of those drivers at most at Citroen next year. Meeke is already signed for full season. Heard this numerous times now ontop of kielder first writing about it here
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Originally Posted by er88
Hehe, Meeke for full season in Citroen without paying? When he was practically out a few week ago, judging from all the quotes on this forum?
No, let´s see tomorrow. Mikko stays and then maybe Ostberg as "semi" paying driver. MAybe Meeke in a few rallies, if he has some money to bring.
I agree with Dimviii. For sure Malcolm want a paying driver and Kubica brings the best market player in Red Bull. No doubt MW sacrifies Novikov or Ostberg for the possibility of making even more Euros.