I'm sure we will get them on both the next ones
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I'm sure we will get them on both the next ones
Btw. they showed Sordos penalty from Friday and it certainly was much more warranted than Lappis.
What makes you think so? I know that they did interview the drivers on Saturday night but that was because more WRC2 crews were still on the run so they had onboard material to fill the broadcast withQuote:
Originally Posted by mknight
They are both TV stages and there's not enough WRC+WRC2 cars to fill an hour so we'll see some WRC3 as well, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Formaux was still on track now since he was late out of service.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Has anything more been said about the Lappi tyre/weather situation yesterday, where he said he wasn't given any info about the snow by Msport?
WRC Monza: Neuville disqualified following a team error
The Belgian is not allowed to restart in SuperRally. Hyundai mentions engine problems ...
Thierry Neuville does not resume his journey as planned. Explanation of Andrea Adamo, director of Hyundai Motorsport: "We have found that there is more damage than expected to the engine after taking so much water and we do not want to risk sending the car into the mountains. . Either way, that would be stupid. We have nothing to gain from it. But we are staying in SuperRally with the opportunity to get Thierry to start again on Sunday to gain a few points. "
What he may not know at the time is that the management of his team made a big mistake. An error in reading or rather his knowledge of the rules. To be able to stay in SuperRally, you have to start the 2nd stage. And to take the start of the 2nd stage, the crew must be present (and not just the mechanics) and rush, with a maximum of thirty minutes late before disqualification.
However, everyone saw that the Hyundai was left alone for more than two hours this morning in the parc fermé. The Neuville-Gilsoul team therefore did not officially take the start of stage 2 and was logically excluded from the race this morning without the possibility of starting again this Sunday.
Rather than admit the error of his team, while everyone expected Thierry Neuville to resume the race this Sunday to increase his counter by a few points and especially to offer a few to his employer in case of 'abandonment of one of the two i20 WRCs of Dani Sordo or Ott Tanak, Andrea Adamo declared: "We have decided not to restart Thierry tomorrow because we have seen that the damage is too great and it would be stupid to take additional risks. "
Nonsense! To be nice, let's say the boss covers the author of the dumpling who will pray tonight that his fault does not cost them the title. Which is, fortunately for him, highly unlikely ...
https://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/...ad5874796e9f6d
No and he was very diplomatic about the whole afternoon loop later in the evening. Either it was also partly his fault, or he realized he has no contract next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
Again for Finnish media he said quite directly that "the team had too little information and it got f-d up"Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
PS is mostly the same stage where Neuville stopped?
Partly same but some sections we haven’t seen before.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Some parts on the Friday stages were upgraded from plain grass to a gravel surface between the recce videos and the race. The power stage has one place where they go around this circle full of grass (not a full donut though), let's see if it has the same treatment. Otherwise it could be as slow and treacherous as Katsuta's corner on SS1
great explanation! And strange that Adamo not telling all truth directly and playing this "show for TV"Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
I bet he's way to embarrassed to admit they made that mistake. It's a pretty cutting article. Interesting to see how far DirtFish go with it, you know with Colin being best mates and all that.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
I believe Hyundai and DF are doing enough of collaboration not to make a scandal articleQuote:
Originally Posted by T16
So snow or wet tires...that is the question.
judging from todays first stage definitely wet for circuit part, just depends how bad the gravel/grass parts areQuote:
Originally Posted by mknight
E: definitely snow, too much mud parts on this stage
So far from footage of last stage - Rally Hungary was not bad at all )))
Easy to puncture with the snow tire though
The camera just cut to Katsuta when Evans was going to a new section...a ssmall service road at the side of the oval
Michelin #Tyre info - SS15
Toyota:
Ogier/Evans/Rovanperä/Katsuta: 4 MICHELIN Pilot Alpin A4 +1 MICHELIN Pilot Sport FW3
Hyundai:
Tänak/Sordo: 4A4 + 1FW3
Msport:
Lappi: 4A4
no stage win for Tänak from this rally it seems
all the time loses all the time on the second parts of the stages, Sordo took 5 secs out of him in here
Mikkelsen controlling the gap between him and Solberg. Yesterday's broken gear shift lever on SS7 made a things a little bit more interesting time wise, other than that - he won the whole rally on day1.
Well according to J. Porters accurate reporting right now Lindholm has been closely fighting with Mikkelsen whole weekend? (30s is close? Solberg is invisible?)
Before the rally I though Kopecky could win this, but without practice and so less km's inside the car didnt help his confidence. And of course weather conditions also.
Kopecký also had left front puncture on this one. His time is not that bad for finishing with a tyre off the rim.
Usually I´m not that interested in points scoring. But now:
Anyone counted where Ogier can be, without loosing the title. Third overall? Too lazy myself finding out actually...
Those who were angry about stage cancellation yesterday, some reading for you :)
https://www.severe-weather.eu/mcd/ex...lps-europe-mk/
It is exceptional situation and in exceptional circumstances, models does not work well, because they learn from existing cases.
If you go just a few tens of km-s north from rally route you can see already meters of snow. and if you read this article, you can see that maximum expected snow in the mountains region is over 5 meters, then you must understand that in the region hit severely by COVID and now by flooding and snowstorm, you just cannot direct all your best forces and machines to secure sport event. I know it is frustrating for us, but we have to understand also the general picture. Even if you have access by ambulance or firetruck along the stage (organizers put huge efforts to clean the stage overnight), if you access roads are blocked by snow and imagine the stage is blocked by crashed cars on the narrow steep downhill route, you just cannot take too much risks.
starting order
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EojL3H1W...jpg&name=large
Tidemand on 4snow tires.
Hoping not to jinx anyone, but one tends to remember Carlos Sainz and the 1998 RAC Rally with the Toyota Corolla engine at times like this.
Here we go!
i wonder what the approach from Tänak will be for PS
yeah its close to zero the chance that something happens with Ogier but lets say he has a puncture and loses 2 minutes and drops to 6th, then automatically Tänak has a chance for the title but then he must also grab 5 points from PS and Evans shouldnt score more than 2 points from PS
so if he really believes theres a chance he must be fastest for this stage anyway to pass Sordo and take maximum points
Ostberg also on snow tyres.
If teamorders doesn´t come he will try. For sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
No splits on the PS?
Edit: yes, there we are.
Its all about the Manus title for the Hyundai guys. No risks will be taken here.
Puncture for Tidemand. Front right.
Tidemand with a puncture, really easy to get it here with those big holes and i saw also some big stones on the road
Assuming Tanak would win and discounting PS point permutations, fourth overall would still guarantee title for Ogier by a single point (109 vs 108).Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper