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He has said that, the power of wrc car isn't something new or extraordinary to him as he has driven a lot more powerful cars, BUT such aero is new and diffrrent thing.
So I wouldn't cross him of before the event.. or be bitter why he gets to drive wrc..
Problem is that he is trying it 2 years earlier than Rovanpera.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
It all seems to be caused by his "need" to do something when Hyundai does a bad rally. He said it directly himself after Monte and now it's same story again.
In 2020 Toyota lost manu title while 1-2 in drivers because new Rovanpera couldn't match points of Sordo+Loeb+Breen.
If Adamo thinks Sordo (who is meh lately) and Solberg will match points of Ogier+Lappi with road position advantage he is nuts.
I think he can have good stage times on Spain, maybe even good result... and it will be at best a side step in his career.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
Next years cars don't have same aero and don't have center diff so what's the point of learning current ones?
His problem so far this year has never been not driving fast enough with powerfull car. Instead it was driving too fast and/or unprecise with just about any car.
I want him to do well and progress, this season he hasn't progressed much, hasn't learnt rallies (hard to do retiring after 2-3 stages) and hasn't had much seattime either.
Sunninen in i20 Rally2 in Spain is great for all sides involved and certainly good news after "only" going to Finland in Rally2.
He can try different car, compare with Huttunen, and show himself to Hyundai (for part-time seat in Rally1 or fulltime Rally2 next year).
Note that Gryazins disaster performance in Greece certainly put Suninen in different light given his performance in Portugal in similar conditions. His main problem is how he did in WRC vs other MSport drivers.
I can only assume Oliver pays for driving WRC car. Craig doesn’t. That’s the difference.
From watching the interview that EstWRC posted in the rally acropolis thread, Adamo seemed kind of deflated and as if he's already been given the nod for his due date at Hyundai Motorsport. So I imagine, any decsions that's been taken from now onwards is from higher up the brass, and Adamo is just there to prepare the team for next year and nothing more. Just speculation of course but I wouldn't be surprised if we'll hear soon enough that he's out.Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
Sorry I forgot Safari but he did well in Italian "village" rally...Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
so "way" was too much, only better with WRC.
I agree with you that full season with Rally2 is best option.
He is 1y younger than Kalle but he has to accept that he isn´t going to be youngest WRC winner.
But how about his dad? :) They are aiming high, but it´s not so easy. Have to admire their passion for rallying and without the doubt Oliver has talent, but there is no shortcut to the top of the WRC...Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
There must also be some synergy between Oliver "upgrading" to a WRC car after Suninen bought the WRC2 seat for Catalunya.
first we'll have to see if he ever is going to be even a contender for a win.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Just takes patience. Kalle was given three years to mature in WRC2 and national championships before going to WRC cars. And even then it took a full year in WRC car before he managed to win an event.
Let's not get too down on Solberg now. The kid does have brilliant natural talent, and I'm confident he will get to the very top. However he does seem to be getting pushed too quickly by Adamo/his family (but at least as fans it's interesting to see how he gets on in spain).Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Agree that he should do a full wrc2 season next year with maybe 2 or 3 drives in a rally 1 car.
Well in connection with this I am getting a bit tired of the "you can make a fast driver reliable but you can't make a reliable (and slow) driver fast" that gets now often repeated by J. Porter on ALLlive among others.
Often it seems that people assume that a it means you will make a fast driver reliable.
There is a lot of examples of fast drivers that never got reliable, detailed count might even show that the majority of fast and unreliable drivers never became reliable.
From the likes of Novikov and Duval to the more normal examples like Meeke.
How Solberg or even Rovanpera end up is still in the future. But the days when you can win championship while crashing every few rallies are definitely gone.
Let the boy have his chances with WRC..
maybe Loubet should do next season also in wrc2?
He hasn't been neither fast nor reliable in WRC..
Fourmaux got the chance to drive slow Fiesta WRC and has shown some nice stage times + 1 proper stage win.
I hope to see Gryazin in top car some events next year.. He has tons of rallies under the belt and maybe faster car also suits him better..
Well I didn't list Gryazin as an example of driver that never got reliable, mainly because he possibly still has long career ahead of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
But his reliability is going backwards. Sure last year one could argue that it was the i20 which wasn't fast enough so he had to push more. But this year he crashes with Polo from leading positions all the time.
How would a different car change that I struggle to see.
Nothing against Oliver, but Adamo and Solberg family should do things differently. Without the doubt he has a lot of talent and seems to be a clever young man...Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
Now Solberg announced split with Johnston.
Well that's kind of the smallest surprise.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
But from some of the onboards I have seen it's not like Johnston does something wrong. More that Solberg needs someone with authority.
Seb Marshall most likely?
Who's next?
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My guess is Seb Marshall as well
I don't understand all these codriver changes recently. The most successfull drivers of the past 2 decades, all sticked to their codriver they started with. Loeb, Ogier, Neuville untill recently, Latvala, Hirvonen...
I don't understand the reasons behind it. Sure, it's often not made public. But changing and learning together seems to be a good tactic, if you judge by the past.
Hello to Oliver! It seems that he is reading this forum... :)
The recent changes have had a variety of reasons, not all related to performance. Also if you look in history Kankkunen and Makkinen had a variety of codrivers. In the end you need a team with balanced experience and commitment.Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
Ogier and IngrassiaQuote:
Originally Posted by cali
Loubet, Gus, Fourmaux, Solberg are logical.. young guys and trying to change something to get better results..
Others haven't just achieved what they want.. WDC.
Ogier and Ingrassia have, Tänak and Järveoja also.
Neuville and Gilsoul have been second overall for like 17 times..
This year the problem has been the Hyundai, not co-drivers..
Without knowing exactly why, I would assume a lot of this recent co-driver activity is related to having more experience alongside the younger drivers. I guess we will find out when the replacements are announced, maybe Phil Mills and Nicky Grist should get the maps dusted off! ��
Not my account https://twitter.com/rockollector/sta...827535370?s=21
Seb Marshall would be the logical choice. Very calm and experienced, already had an event with Oliver.
However I think Solberg might have the same "issue" (looking from the outside) that Meeke had too, in that his notes just seem absolutely overloaded with information. I got lost in the notes watching any of Meeke's onboards under Nagle, but the clearer and calmer voice of Marshall made it a bit easier to follow.
These drivers probably think there is nothing wrong with their notes/ amount of information, and clearly it only matters what suits them best and what they are comfortable with..., but it's just my observation as random rally fan who's watched a lot of onboards.
I met Seb Marshall in the plane to Munich, just a few words to tell him I missed him in a big car :)
And I showed this photo to him, great souvenir :D
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...2cf35f293f.jpg
Time slows down when you are at the wheel.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
And when you've made the notes yourself it's a lot easier to follow than trying to follow someone else.
Think Oliver may go for Giraudet. He was with them at the testing and has co driven Oliver before.
I thought he may be the target for Fourmaux!Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
I've heard that the new codriver for Fourmeaux will be the codriver that was with Rossel before.
Well, at least they have time without each other. Veillas do the most PET with Ogier.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
No way, isn’t he too old for that? Coaching is a different thing…Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
https://www.ewrc-results.com/coprofi...enis-giraudet/
He is still going.
Yes but it’s different than doing 13 WRC events a year and testing. And besides, they should be looking at a long collaboration, not something that will end soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
Another thing that was done correctly for Kalle. He had an old experienced co-driver in the early years and switched to a younger one just as he entered WRC, they will have a long career together.
Can't see that this has been mentioned, 2022 Season launch back at the Autosport show in Birmingham in 2022:
http://planetemarcus.com/birmingham-...ison-wrc-2022/
Fourmaux’s co-driver for Rally Finland revealed
Alexandre Coria - who usually sits with Yohan Rossel - will join Fourmaux next month
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/fourm...land-revealed/
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/s...olved/6670874/
Out of contract Hyundai WRC driver Dani Sordo says people won’t be surprised by his plans for 2022 as the Spaniard's World Rally Championship future remains up in the air.
Sordo is among the most experienced drivers in the WRC having made his championship debut in 2003, driving for Citroen, Mini, Ford and Hyundai factory teams, winning three rallies across his career to date.
The 38-year-old has been with Hyundai since the marque’s re-emergence on the WRC scene in 2014 but has been driving partial campaigns since 2018.
However, his future for next season is yet to be announced as Hyundai continues to weigh up its options for its third car, after re-signing 2019 world champion Ott Tanak and Thierry Neuville earlier this year.
Sordo has confirmed that plans for 2022 are in the works and that a part-time campaign is expected should a new deal with Hyundai emerge.
“I don’t know, for sure I will do something. We don’t know yet,” said Sordo when asked when he could confirm his 2022 plans.
“I’m just focusing on the rallies coming up. They are very important for us and it is quite busy timing but after that we have to take some time to see what we can do.
“If I do something it will be the same [part-time] conditions.
“I don’t think so,” he added, when asked if his decision for 2022 would come as a surprise.
This season Sordo has been sharing the third with Craig Breen although the Irishman has been heavily linked with a move to M-Sport for 2022.
Breen wishes to contest a full season next year and Hyundai boss Andrea Adamo confirmed to Autosport that his team is unable to offer that to Breen.
“It is clear that Craig thinks he deserves to do the world championship and it is clear that Hyundai cannot offer him the world championship,” said Adamo.
Adamo has confirmed that he is in talks with Sordo and last month he hinted that Hyundai’s WRC2 driver Oliver Solberg could be in the mix to graduate to the WRC next season.
Solberg has been testing Hyundai’s 2022 machine this week along with Thierry Neuville, and the son of 2003 world champion Petter Solberg has also been handed a third WRC outing with the marque at Rally Spain next month.
Hyundai’s decision to hand Solberg the Rally Spain drive has seen the manufacturer sign M-Sport WRC refugee Teemu Suninen to drive Solberg’s vacated WRC2 car in Spain.
Suninen is a free agent for next year following his split with M-Sport and could be a valuable asset to Hyundai for the future given his experience.
So...either retirement or part time in Hyundai once more? If I had to guess I'd say part time again but it seems everybody seems pretty tight lipped for the time being.