Photo of the year, NOT will love this:
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Photo of the year, NOT will love this:
https://scontent-cdt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...c3&oe=5BD0D6D4
this pro photogrpaher had the hardest choice in his life... go outside and see the action or stay inside a sauna with a naked overweight walrus ??
No respect for these pros.... 90% are a bunch of nobodies, they know shit about the sport.
I thought it was a photo of NOT?Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
Agreed, it's not like Jaanus Ree knows shit about WRC https://www.instagram.com/p/Bl2RhNZF...n-by=jaanusreeQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
he seems to know a lot about photography his technique and lightroom software handling is amazing...Quote:
Originally Posted by tr4m
but he knows shit about the WRC and where to spectate from... as most pros he just goes to the random spot where all the pros are and takes amazing photos of the scenery.
I only respect that photography guy from ewrc.cz he is a true fan and his photos are amazing... and some others... very few...
the other pros are just generic photogrpahers with amazing skills that i would hire to take pictures of my wedding but not to spectate with them in the WRC... the places they choose are shit.
the fact that they travel around the world and have been in almost every WRC round and they still cannot choose proper spots makes their situation even worse.
I make davids statue in Florence look like a sick dog kid...Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
;)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Couldn't help myself... I'd say sorry but I'm not.
Perhaps you should take a closer look at his work? He's rarely among the other pros, he goes out of his way to find the best possible places, walking tens of km's carrying 50kg of equipment on him. Obviously he's not as passionate about WRC as he is about photography, but saying he doesn't know shit about WRC and where to spectate is quite a ridiculous claim imo. I don't unfortunately have any english sources, but take a look at this video (hopefully it works outside Estonia). It's in Estonian and introduces his and Timo Anis' work.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
That being said, I agree about ewrc.cz photographer.
So N.O.T, who are your favorite rally photographers? List your heroes by name.
You shouldn't judge this guy for one odd photo. In contrary to NOT, Jaanus Ree is one of the pro photographers I respect the most. I think he was a photographer already before he started following rally, for most other rally photographers it is different indeed. But he is far from lazy, does probably most recce and preparation of all photographers. You can find him in every possible place, beyond where many of the "pros" would ever go, and that with lots of extra baggage to carry his tripods and lightning equipment. His photos often carry an atmosphere that you can rarely find from others. Also technically I think he's the best photographer, he has a lot of knowledge about both natural and artificial light which very few rally photographers have. Also his editing is spot on...
These are a few other photos he's taken this year:
https://scontent.fbru1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...25&oe=5C0B8600
https://scontent.fbru1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...36&oe=5BD8BBD2
https://scontent.fbru1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...a7&oe=5BD19AFC
https://scontent.fbru1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...84&oe=5C05F0EC
I think such photos are really cool, something creative with WRC in it. I mean there are manny photos of jus plain WRC action. I like when someone tries to do something different with it. Though such photo has been done one or few years ago.
3 out of 4 of these are taken in spots that are in the official guides...Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
the fact that he was a photographer before following the WRC shows because his photos technically are immaculate but the spots he chooses are shit 90% of the time as with every pro.
The fact that he goes through the stages and still chooses those shit places like the last picture shows that he has not learnt anything from years of following the sport.
I somehow fail to see what is wrong on using new technologies available. Of course overdoing postprocessing may lead to a ridiculous result. It's a sort of art after all and people either have the feeling or they don't which means not only that those who create stupidly looking photos today would hardly do good photos in the past but as well that those who did good photos in the past would do them again and they would also use the modern technologies if they could. They didn't use them simply because they were not available.
Guys a little help here, please. I know some of you knows pretty much everything. What is called this behind wheels. I know what are for but I don't remember the name.Attachment 1617
They're called mud flaps.
Oh thanks friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Everybody fill your glasses and drink a toast to Prodrive, Subaru, Colin McRae and Derek Ringer - it was exactly 25 years ago today each of them claimed their first WRC event wins.
Now if you will excuse me I have a video I want to go and watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A53pmFxzrdY
Nice video. Especially as I make an appearance toward the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan
Prodrive run BMW M3 won Corsica in 1987Quote:
Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan
Thanks Norm75 I did not know that part of the back story. Can anyone refer me to an article on Prodrive's rally BMW years. Interested to learn more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norm75
Has Prodrive put any other brands into WRC besides BMW, Subaru and Mini ?
PorscheQuote:
Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan
Yes Porsche, they started in 1984 and ran rothmans liveried 911sc with toivenen driving and also I think Jimmy McRae drove them. They also ran metro 6r4 in 1986 (not sure if that was anything to do with the rothmans 6r4 McRae snr drove in RAC) and then rothmans liveried M3 in 87, winning Corsica with Bernhard Beguin driving, but over the next three years M3's were only entered in four or five events, as BMW concentrated on touring cars.
Yep, those programs weren’t WRC intended. The 911 was a semi official project as the Gr.B SCRS evolution was made by Porsche at Prodrive request, to be run alongside Rothmans in the MERC by Al-Hajri (84/85 champ) and in the ERC by Toivonen (84 vice champ). Prodrive and Rothmans also entered events in the Irish Tarmac with Coleman and in the French series with Therier or Beguin, plus a few WRC outings (mainly a 2 cars entry on the RAC and Corsica and several Acropolis with Al-Hajri). Besides the units taken by Prodrive, Porsche sold the rest of the 20 evolution cars to other rally teams or private drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norm75
Rothmans also financed Prodrive project to run Jimmy McRae on the ’86 British Open (with an extra entry at the RAC), using a Gr.B Metro 6R4 prepared by the team and it allowed Billy Coleman to use a similar car on the Irish Tarmac (after starting the season in the 911).
The M3 started as another limited scale rally program for Prodrive. BMW successfully developed the Gr.A M3 for track use but Prodrive decided to adapt it to rally, running on behalf of BMW importers in France (with Beguin and later Chatriot) and Belgium (with Duez and later Snyers, who also was ERC vice champ with it). Besides Corsica several times (then part of the French series), Prodrive also run the 1000 Lakes with Vatanen in ’88 and a handful of WRC events more, mainly with Duez on his Fina sponsored ’89 short program (luckily, it included Portugal ;)). Despite not being a purpose designed rally machine and having little tech support from BMW, the M3 became a milestone in Prodrive rally heritage; sold to rally costumers all over Europe, it managed to get a large number of national titles and overall wins.
thanks Rally Power and Norm75 for the detailed historical information. Really appreciated
Always loved that classic video of Snijers hustling the M3 around the Manx.
For viewers in GB that have bt TV, there is a short half hour programme on the bt player added last week about the Irish festival of speed. A rally based event it features Snijers in his M3, and also Coleman driving.Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
Just to add, Prodrive also ran the M3 in the same period in the British touring car championship, winning it with Sytner.
Having googled prodrives history a little, and Jimmy McRae, it was indeed his rothmans liveried 6r4 that was run by prodrive. But I can't find any info relating to Jimmy ever having driven the 911 in period, although he does drive them on historic events.
He did the Oman International in `86 in it according to ewrc: https://www.ewrc-results.com/profile/1128-jimmy-mcrae/Quote:
Originally Posted by Norm75
Tbh, I imagined he'd done more.
Shame this didn't crop up a month or so ago, spoke to Jimmy at Goodwood so could of asked the man himself!Quote:
Originally Posted by the sniper
Paddon and the personal shizz from 2017
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/new...ectid=12104888
Someone put a Fiesta in a box.
Stig BlÖmqvist? Blomqvist!Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
It’s Dävid Evåns...
Hehe. One beer to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Why stop there? Ďäŵĭđ Ëvåņş.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
A bit over the top but who cares, it's the pub.
To continue here from the news and rumours thread:
IMHO, and I am the world's biggest JML fan...
Tanak is overshadowing Latvala. It's a combination of atroicious luck for Jari-Matti, and incredible form in Ott Tanak that reminds me of JML in 2011. Jari-Matti doesn't seem to have an answer for it, and that's genuinely upsetting.
On topic of Colin Clark accidentally calling Fabio Andolfi as Umberto: there's a great similar situation from 1987 1000 Lakes Rally, on the live televising of the final stage. Blomqvist and Vatanen were driving similar RWD Sierras. Blomqvist was second at the start of the first day but Vatanen got past him during the last day. Thus Blomqvist drove to the finish first and interviewer started interviewing him in Finnish, thinking it's Vatanen, congratulating for second place. Once he took the helmet off, the interviewer just went dead silent noticing it's the wrong guy who won't even speak Finnish :D
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Originally Posted by sonnybobiche
A lot of us are rooting for JML. The guy is extremely passionate about the sport. I really think he’s had a ton of bad luck with ecu and transmission issues galore. Some issues of his own as well. He does have a contract for next year so that is good. I would assume he stays with Toyota along with Lappi. Hopefully next year is a better year. JML needs to be a lead driver. It would almost be better for him to go to Citroen as a lead driver but I don’t see that happening since he’s not had the best seasons in the new cars...
never ever had heard about that car.
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