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2nd June 2010, 22:14
Mark in Oshawa

Eki, you are one to talk about truth....you only report what you want to believe.....
3rd June 2010, 01:05
anthonyvop

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Originally Posted by Eki

The truth is the first victim, and maybe also the last:

http://en.rsf.org/israel-at-least-60...010,37646.html

If they have nothing to hide, they should have let the journalists report freely and tell what really happened.

How do they know if they are real journalists? What defines a journalist? Do the Islamo-Fascist Bloggers who were on the ship qualify?
3rd June 2010, 01:44
airshifter

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

How do they know if they are real journalists? What defines a journalist? Do the Islamo-Fascist Bloggers who were on the ship qualify?

Does it matter? Journalists or not, we have no reason to think they were biased, just because they were travelling with a bunch of activists with the interntion of breaking through a naval blockade.

Let's just call them ministers of information. Everyone knows such people are rock solid in what they say.

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformation...7-minister.jpg
3rd June 2010, 04:37
steve_spackman

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Originally Posted by Rani

Eki, Don't look at these videos if you want to continue thinking it's all lies. These soldiers were beaten half to death. The soldier thrown from the deck is a major and a squad leader in that force. He was stabbed in the abdomen and then thrown two stories. After that he just plucked the knife out and jumped into the water so they couldn't kill him. I want to know how you would react had you been beaten and stabbed by a mob like that. The soldiers were so unprepared for things to get so violent they only started defending themselves after eight of them were very close to being killed.

The videos Eki shouldn't see:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buzOWKxN2co

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwbCt...eature=related

QUOTE: Paul W

So, when one Iranian protester is killed it is shown endlessly by US/Israeli media to prove their government is brutal & blood thirsty. When our twisted Secretary of state brags of our unshakable support for Israel, we look the other way when they massacre innocent civilians and humanitarian aid ships are ruthlessly pirated. The USA is an accomplice to War Crimes by the shear fact that we continue to allow them to terrorize & murder, fund their military, Israel is on the receiving end of our extremely generous foreign aid. All the while American citizens are being made homeless, can't afford to go the a doctor,are broke & live in fear of not having a job. As an American Jew I am ashamed of my country's savagery & hypocrisy. Once again our change and hope Commander and chief is muzzled into silence by AIPAC.
3rd June 2010, 05:48
Eki

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

How do they know if they are real journalists? What defines a journalist?

Their employers? Journalist cards? If they weren't real journalists, why hold them longer than others?
3rd June 2010, 05:51
Eki

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Originally Posted by airshifter

Does it matter? Journalists or not, we have no reason to think they were biased, just because they were travelling with a bunch of activists with the interntion of breaking through a naval blockade.

Let's just call them ministers of information. Everyone knows such people are rock solid in what they say.

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformation...7-minister.jpg

No, it's Israel that has ministers of information. Do you have any pictures of them? The former Iraqi information minister is not very relevant here, except he was about as reliable as the Israelis, but that was his job.
3rd June 2010, 05:58
anthonyvop

I am going to make some of our resident, bleeding heart, liberals pop a blood vessel.

Under International Law a nation has the right to interdict any vessel if they have reasonable suspicion that the vessel will violate their or international law.

Considering that those on the ship had announced to the world that they intended to violate Israeli law the State of Israel had the right to board the vessel.

Once their soldiers were attacked the laws of Humanity allows them to defend themselves as they saw fit.

Israel acted legally and morally in this event. Actually they showed restraint.
3rd June 2010, 06:01
anthonyvop

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Originally Posted by Eki

Their employers? Journalist cards? If they weren't real journalists, why hold them longer than others?

By being on the ship they were violating Israeli and international law.

Being a self appointed journalist gives them no special rights or privileges. it is just a job.
3rd June 2010, 06:04
Eki

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

By being on the ship they were violating Israeli and international law.

No, no, you're confusing things again. It was the ISRAELIS who were violating international law. And the Israeli law does not apply in the international waters or even Gaza.
3rd June 2010, 07:38
Bob Riebe

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Originally Posted by Eki

No, no, you're confusing things again. It was the ISRAELIS who were violating international law. And the Israeli law does not apply in the international waters or even Gaza.

Sorry Eki, but a expert on international law on NPR radio to day said Israel was legal in doing what it did.
As usual, you are wrong.

He also said, Israel has "international" law on its side ONLY, if it does it every time for every ship.
It cannot pick and choose, or else it is no longer a blockade as written in your blessed "international law".

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