2012 Presidential Race

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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

No, you still need to answer why Capitalism fails every few years, maybe from where ever you move to.

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And that's not all, the best part of it is that when that happens we get a

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

And by Winston Churchill..

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.

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meaning that the poor get to share the loses due to the failure of the rich, but never the profits!

Capitalism is failing for one reason, because what we have today it is not what capitalism was at it's inception, what we have today is a system that is not based anymore on production of goods and services, instead we have a system based on production of money without the required production of added value to support it. We are living in a sick system and we are all going down the drain, some faster, some slower, but without changes we will all finish in the same sh!t.

I haven't seen anything offensive until the claims of it being offensive!

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

Janvan,
What you refuse to admit is that capitalism is the only economic system to ever show consistent and an increasing of better standings of living. As tough as the economy gets, capitalism still shows hope and growth. Why ? Because it works !
No other system has shown such great progress and improvements in production, technology, growth, etc.

It focuses on free enterprise and individual rights. It has worked better than government "socialized" programs. The less government is involved in our lives, the better off we are. The Constitution was written to protect man from the government and the Bill of Rights was actually written as an anti-government document to give individuals rights superiority. The government's first job is to protect our lives, not run them. I dont know how you cant see that...

Thomas Jefferson said it good... "Government that governs least, governs best.

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Inflation-adjusted wages for most people in the USA have changed slightly over a few decades. In the same time, pay at the top has quadrupled. So much for trickle down economics.
It's the Inequality, Stupid | Mother Jones

I personally support a mix of responsible capitalism and moderate socialism, which has enabled countries like Norway to have very high standards of living for everyone, and contributes to their low crime rates.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I think that's rather harsh. Ill-informed, certainly, and not especially well-educated, probably — but not 'crazy' in this instance.

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Ah, but I said "seems"--and "like" as in "as in, ".. Truth is this guy speaks in 'code -words" and I know what he means with his phrases..and all i can say is Tsk tsk tsk..... Maybe a haruph thrown in for good measure.

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

No other system has shown such great progress and improvements in production, technology, growth, etc.

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Except for the mixed economic system, which to date delivered the industrial revolution, the discovery of four continents (from a European perspective) and the establishment of the basis of most western law and mode of thinking.

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

It focuses on free enterprise and individual rights. It has worked better than government "socialized" programs. The less government is involved in our lives, the better off we are.

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Presumably you drive a motor car. Also presumably you are aware of the Dwight D. Eisenhower National System of Interstate and Defense Highways which is the single biggest "socialized" program in history and cost roughly $568bn in 2012 terms. Without it, the United States would cease to function and yet so many private firms use it as a delivery system for all manner of goods and services.
If you think that any private system of roads at more than 47,000 miles would have even been built at all, then I would like to hear your reasoning.

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

The government's first job is to protect our lives, not run them. I dont know how you cant see that...

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Maybe because the word "government" is the noun derived from the word "govern". To govern means to enact and oversee policy and planning, which usually also happens in conjunction with a rules making authority.

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

And for the record I also love Sarah Palin and Ann Coulter.

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I would have been surprised, disappointed and confused if you'd said otherwise. Oh, and don't forget about Michele Bachmann. Surely if you love those other two, you gotta have a hunka, hunka burnin' love for Micky.

Amirite or amirite... or amirite?! :)

P.S. How do you feel about Laura Ingraham? Way back in the day (when dinosaurs still roamed), Laura was in law school at UVA while I was working on my MBA there. She wasn't really famous back then and I only knew who she was because she was very striking (about 5'10"+/- and pretty darn hot back then)... and she'd made something of a name for herself at Dartmouth (going after gays, when her brother was gay). Even then she was known to be kind of wingnutty, kooky and angry (even though UVA is/was a pretty conservative school). But you'd have probably liked her a lot too.

Reason(verb):

1. Think, understand, and form judgments by a process of logic

2. Find an answer to a problem by considering various possible solutions

3. Persuade (someone) with rational argument

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

I never could reason with a liberal...lol

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Judging by the above definition, I don't think what you've posted in this thread and the 9/11 thread qualifies as reasoning.

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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

No, you still need to answer why Capitalism fails every few years,

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Capitalism has never failed. Only people who think they have a better idea on how people should live their lives fail.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

Capitalism has never failed.

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Ah another Tony the _________ flat assertion that flies in the whatever of the historic record.

Maybe you can go and rewrite all these articles, you being the expert on all history of everything:
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2 2007–2009 recession in the United States[/*:m:shpy7v50] 2010 Flash Crash[/*:m:shpy7v50] B Baring crisis[/*:m:shpy7v50] Black Friday (1869)[/*:m:shpy7v50] Black Monday (1987)[/*:m:shpy7v50] D Dot-com bubble[/*:m:shpy7v50] E Economic effects arising from the September 11 attacks[/*:m:shpy7v50] F Friday the 13th mini-crash[/*:m:shpy7v50] G Global financial crisis in November 2008[/*:m:shpy7v50] Global financial crisis in October 2008[/*:m:shpy7v50] L List of recessions in the United States[/*:m:shpy7v50] O October 27, 1997 mini-crash[/*:m:shpy7v50]

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P cont. Panic of 1901[/*:m:shpy7v50] Panic of 1907[/*:m:shpy7v50] Panic of 1910–1911[/*:m:shpy7v50] R Recession of 1937–1938[/*:m:shpy7v50] Recession of 1958[/*:m:shpy7v50] S Savings and loan crisis[/*:m:shpy7v50] Silver Thursday[/*:m:shpy7v50] Stock market downturn of 2002[/*:m:shpy7v50] T Toxic security[/*:m:shpy7v50] U United States bear market of 2007–2009[/*:m:shpy7v50] United States policy responses to the late-2000s recession[/*:m:shpy7v50] V

Of course that would require clicking and reading the links, far more trouble than one lines plucked from the Florida air..

What kind of air do they have in Florida?? :idea:

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

Capitalism has never failed. Only people who think they have a better idea on how people should live their lives fail.

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What does that statement mean?