Oh, you were on about huff I guess. Fluff, cuff, tough, rough, luff......Quote:
Originally Posted by donKey jote
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Oh, you were on about huff I guess. Fluff, cuff, tough, rough, luff......Quote:
Originally Posted by donKey jote
Exactly, this is a lesson we learned from Valencia. If you don't obbey the rules but the fine imposed is less than what is gained, then let's not follow the rules. The price for Alonso being again a WC contender is 100k,so they broke the rule (like everybody does) and thats all.Quote:
Originally Posted by eu
My two pennyworth...
1. Considering the potential rewards, a fine of this size is insignificant and will not dissuade teams from similar actions in the future.
2. A suitable punishment IMHO would have been to dock the constructors points AND swap Massa's and Alonso's results about. This way there would be no advantage to breaking the rules.
3. Teams in this situation usually rattle on about this being a team sport. My response is that swapping two drivers positions does not affect the number of points awarded to the team.
4. F1 needs to decide if it is a team sport, an individual sport, or both. If both then the drivers should be allowed to race for the drivers championship. The team should only concern itself with the constructors championship.
Regards
d
As an F1 driver (not personally) the first person you need to beat is your team mate. Generally, being faster in practice and qualifying demonstrates your superior speed, but this is nothing without racecraft.
If you can't beat your teammate by overtaking him in a genuine manouvre, then I consider that a poor show, and reflects badly on the driver.
Add to this the amount of shyte that has stuck to Onslo over the years, and it appears he is only capable being the best if unchallenged.
Yup, you don't suppose the Santander money comes with a caveat do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by hmmm - donuts
Maybe 'our man must win at all costs'? :s mokin:
Meh. Couldn't really give a toss about it, team orders are as much a part of F1 as wheels and engines. McLaren would do the same, Red Bull would do the same (Christian Horner has got a lot of nerve whingeing after the stunt that RBR pulled with Webber's wing). The teams all want their driver to be the World Champion so they do what it takes. Those 5 points could be huge by the end of the season, Ferrari know it, Massa knows it and Christian Horner knows it.
Found this funny for some reason :p :
http://twitter.com/Formula1game/status/19568881267
If Alonso was faster than Massa he should have overtaken him. Instead he whined and look what has happened.
Alonso also whined that he was faster than Fisichella in the Canadian GP back in 2005(?).
Is the man afraid to overtake a teammate? Do teammates have an inherent need to keep their driving partner behind them, thus we see teammates crashing into each other more often than when drivers from different teams fight for position?
Ferrari made a pig's breakfast of this race when they had PR gold staring them in the face had Massa won on the anniversary of his terrible accident at the Hungaroring.
you just had to pop off with "Chopper".....Quote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
OH, please, do not refer to vettel, as Chopper!!!
That is such an insult to webber, your hero, as well as to the elder chopschuie, and you show such ignorance unworthy of a poster when you do that..... :D
Great, I loved it.....Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Fact is everyone is doing it, but none are being obivous, until Ferrari comes along and cuts a big fart