If i understand right, we will have Fiesta R5 with same name, but instead appears on class 2, appears RC2. WRC appears RC1 instead WRC and so on...Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
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If i understand right, we will have Fiesta R5 with same name, but instead appears on class 2, appears RC2. WRC appears RC1 instead WRC and so on...Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
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Originally Posted by Mirek
I'd say the 2013 "Rallye-Jeunes": Laurent Laskowski and especially Eric Camilli(the fastest of the two drivers) :)
What Camilli did in the DS3 R1 and then in the DS3 R3 in french tarmac championship was simply outstanding :eek:
Mérci beaucoup!
News from FIA: http://www.fia.com/news/world-motor-sport-council-3
Tanaks situation has puzzled me. His first wrc season and neuvilles were very similiar, and look where Thierry is now. Against Hanninen in swrc tanak showed great speed too so i think its been unfortunate that Tanak has been totally left out. Maybe his 1st year in wrc was a bit too early but i hope he gets a chance again sometime in the future at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carbon
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Originally Posted by Sulland
No news about JWRC and Citroën :confused:
Yeah, Tanak would be the man. :bounce: He´s got the thing needed. Give him a chance!
Maybe even Meeke could have but as second driver. :confused:
Citroen could use both in a good way to score as much points as possible.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111720
Dani Sordo will be confirmed as a Hyundai World Rally Championship driver for the 2014-opening Monte Carlo event next week.
The Spaniard is expected to tackle all asphalt rounds of next year's championship alongside Thierry Neuville in an i20 WRC.
Hyundai Motorsport has recently revealed Thierry Neuville and Juho Hanninen as drivers of the all-new i20 WRC, but declined to make comment on any crew who will join them next season.
Sordo, who was unavailable when AUTOSPORT tried to contact him, will compete on the asphalt rounds of the 2014 calendar following his seventh start in the French Alps next month.
The Spaniard has a strong record on the Monte, finishing on the podium on three of his last four outings.
Hyundai will confirm its driver line-up at a launch in Frankfurt next week, but a tweet - which has been subsequently removed - from Hyundai Spain confirmed the deal.
The tweet said: "Dani Sordo will run with Hyundai on the Monte Carlo Rally and other rounds of the world championship."
Sordo's decision removes him from Citroen's list of possible drivers. Citroen reveals its team on December 16.
Two, but still very young :Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Axel Garcia : he win 2013 French Junior championship for his second year of rally. He started in 2012. For his 4th rally, he done Critérium des Cévennes, and finished on the podium in Junior champ !
For sure, great great hope in France. He is from Enjolras family.
Another is Laurent Pellier. He started rally this year, and did pretty good performance. He did podiums in french junior champ and win the DS3 R1 trophy in Var. He did one year on track. He can be interesting things in the future, and I think he'll be next junior champion. But he has a small lack of consistancy for the moment.
Other good, but not so sure if they can be top class driver :
Eric Camilli and Laurent Laskowski, both Rallyes Jeunes. They did incredible perf with DS3 R3 in their last race of the year, as fast as Robert on various stages. Let's see what happened to them next year, as the 2011 winners are nowhere now, even if they were less impressive.
At a bigger step there are other good drivers, as Charles Martin, who showed great perf. He finished 2nd in junior champ in 2012, and this year impressed in 208 R2 trophy. Let's see how he'll turn.
Thank You as well.
New groups:
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Nice marketing from Huyndai.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
He had one with Miclotte, but unfortunately they didn't really get a fair opportunity in 2012 by VW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
teme look the other page ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Didn't notice that one. Anyway, now it is here in both Portuguese and English :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Seems like FIA decided that they are going trough with the change in groups. Another thing they decided is that all WRC drivers will use colored banners on the windscreen, so that it is clear in what class a certain competitor is competing. Hallelujah... :D
Source: http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/wm ... index.html
His english is very good but do you know if he needs his notes in Dutch / Flemish? He's had Mombaerts too iirc and Lara :colour:Quote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
Was Fred M a regular or a one-off when he wasn't with Kuipers or Loix?
Im sure Tanak will be back in wrc at some stage, if only he could get some funding for even just partial erc programme to get him back in the loop. I doubt we will see him next year but i agree with you and bluuford here that Meeke+ Tanak pairing wouldn't be the worst solution out there for citroen but both are very crash prone, it would be exciting though :laugh:! As Kielder said in hyundai thread, whoever citroen get as another driver it could surprise people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
He was to be his regular co-driver. VW wanted to have someone with more experience sitting next to him so they basically threw Lara out after Monte Carlo. But then they only got 3 more events for the rest of the year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
Yeah, all the changes are shortly here:
http://www.fia.com/news/world-motor-sport-council-3
I think the start order solution is great (back to the older system). Championship order only for the first day and then reversed for the reminder of the event. It helps privateers/young guns to shine on the first day and then gives exitement for the next days when the championship leader is making up his possible deficit. It makes things more equal, then everybody can taste loose gravel and privateers/young guns does not look slower that they actually are:-) Current system was a bit too much biased to the best driver driection (They always got the best conditions). Good thing is that everybody who wants to lead champinship must take into account the fact that they have to sweep roads at the beginning of next event.
I am a bit skeptical about using R3 for JWRC. Are the costs going to stay the same? It definitely increases the costs when drivers wants to have similar car for practicing.
Colors are funny, I hope that next idea is coloring all windscreens to certain colour: Green (beginner) windows for JWRC and WRC3, Yellow windows for WRC2 and black (as a boss) for all WRC-s :-P If it is not working the I suggest to paint the whole car according to its class ;-)
If it is not more expensive than with Fiesta R2 than it means the JWRC in M-Sport hands was far overpriced... but in my opinion it will be more expensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
He will drive Citroen next year but not sure if just R5 or some events with WRC too.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
So, Ostberg, Meeke, Tänak looks logical. Tänak doing WRC2 and testing their new R5 car and then replacing Ostberg on tarmac events (Ostberg may still do those but not in nominated car)? sounds reasonable. Tänak was already mostly faster than Ostberg in Germany and in Spain (on tarmac stages) despite no testing nearly first events with WRC on tarmac. But we do not know how Ostberg adopts to different car.. We will see ;-)
Wasn't Tänak looking for funding to do selected events in WRC-2/Fiesta R5 a few months back? If Citroën signed him it's pretty good news. With Kubica, Hänninen and possibly Meeke back in the championship chances are that 2014 season will be a whole lot more exciting than it has been in the recent years.
Thanks to one more factory team...Quote:
Originally Posted by miniwintz
i think the battle for second place was very exciting in the majority of the last few years as well... so no change for 2014.Quote:
Originally Posted by miniwintz
Yes, Tänak was looking for funding, but nobody mentioned Fiesta R5. Right now its Unknown if Tänak is singed by Citroen or just a customer. Lets wait and see :)Quote:
Originally Posted by miniwintz
I think it´s good to hear Tanak might be back. As said above, he deserves a second chance. No stardriver was it without training and practising (even crashes).
If Tanak has been signed id be happily surprised but maybe his paying for r5. With Meeke in and possibly Tanak having some involvement with citroen too be interesting to see where ostberg winds up. Stay at Msport?Quote:
Originally Posted by Allar
Tanak could be a interesting comeback, but i have a slight remember that it was his personality that was the biggest problem, in combination of money.
Lets hope he matured and have a better aproch this time, and good sponsors:)
Maybe a erc/wrc2 programme with some apperances in wrc is a good way for a potential young gun.
a shame but there is no way we will see Tanak in a wrc car next year , unless he wins the euro millions
Meeke has already been a world champion ! when the irc was better than wrc for amount of capable drivers ,
He needs a proper chance , correct me if i am wrong but i think the only qualifying stage winners are Ogier , Loeb and Meeke in 2013
I would love Meeke to be in Citroen as a full time driver. However I think it will depend if Matton has forgiven him for the Australian disaster. Meeke was silly to give away points like he did and not follow the Boss' instructions.
Mikko re launched his website earlier today. If he was about /bto be announced as an MSport driver in the next few days that newly re-launched website may need a re do to remove all references to another manufacturer.
As i know WRC2(RC2) program is already covered by sponsor money. I´m not sure why there is no official news yet, but i hope they are still hoping for a WRC seat.Quote:
Originally Posted by adr17
Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJW
Maybe they decided to keep Mikko in the end if Sordo said no to a full campaign?
I rather got the impression Mikko thought he would have got on better with the Fiesta again though. Maybe Malcolm needs pay drivers? :(
Citroen cannot decide anything anymore...these days are over for them
Was Thierry a pay driver last year or did he have some sponsors etc? Really be surprised to see Mikko remaining at citroenQuote:
Originally Posted by RS
Abu Dhabi Young Drivers Selections 2014 - Citroën Racing - http://www.citroen-wrc.com/en/
Nasser paid Citroën for Thierry's car in 2012. The same happened for this season except that they both moved to M-Sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
Thierry made his money from personal sponsors (clothing, watches, glasses...)