I think the July deadline for homologation is only for the engine and nothing else.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
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I think the July deadline for homologation is only for the engine and nothing else.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Our preparations for the new 2022 WRC era have received a further boost with Thierry and Ott both signing multi-year deals to remain with our team.
https://motorsport.hyundai.com/new-d...ierry-and-ott/
i guess 3rd car between Solberg, Sordo and Breen? if they will be signed of course, Sordo and Breen i mean
Now we can only hope, that new car is not "only manageable by Neuville". Otherwise I'm not happy at all about this news...
I think at the end Hyundai was basically only choice as..
-Toyota is ,,full,, and waiting what Ogier decides to do next year + Evans and Kalle won't go anywhere
-Wilson couldn't get the money for him and maybe would be a step back at the moment..?
Although it would have been interesting to watch either Neuville or Tänak in different car.
"good budget, good drivers...." unlike MSport
catastrophic season so far
out of 6 rallies they SHOULD have won 4 but have managed only 1
With the right tyres they should have won Croatia too, so 5 out of 6. Instead Toyota has 5...Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Hyundai Motorsport’s logistics guru Pablo Marcos will take over from Penasse as team manager from Ypres Rally onwards.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/neuvi...ses-departure/
There have been a lot of talks about Ott Tänaks misfortune with Hyundai. Anybody has not been mentioning the situation with Thierry Neuville. His last win was in Monte Carlo 2020?!?. So it has been one and a half season without any wins.
That's actually really good observation!Quote:
Originally Posted by trykmann
Neuville is somehow always around there and fights for win every few rallies at least (but not every rally), but he has not actually won anything for quite long.
Out of those last 14 rallies, 10 have been won by toyota. 6 of those were by some bloke called Sebastian.Quote:
Originally Posted by trykmann
What i feared at the end of 2019 has come true, we are back at vw levels of dominance with ogier in the toyota.
Yeah not sure if the countless tech problems Hyundai are suffering is down to them going over the line in battling with Toyota?
Luckily they atleast are in the mix. Toyota and Ogier are sadly too good, but luckily it is not as bad as Ford for example.
Neuville's co-driver change probably also has compromised his performance this year.
Last year he was second in Sardegna and Turkey. Car failed in Mexico whereas he made mistakes in Estonia and Monza.
Croatia was a rare case of both Tänak and Neuville finishing with no issues but Neuville being faster. (Also the first full tarmac rally for Tänak in the Hyundai).
Hopefully the fortune turns in Ypres.
last year he and Evans both won 2 rallies, isnt exactly dominating?Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
He has always been excellent capitalizing when others have misfortunes or make mistakes, and thats exactly what he has done this year at Sardegna and Kenya and his win count is so big (well its just part of this sport and winning titles). The only technical misfortune Ogier has had in one and a half years is Turkey last year if i remember correctly.
IMO he was really dominating on VW days, won rallies even when cleaning for two days. that was completely different level what he is doing now.
What Ogier is doing now is IMO much more impressive than what he did in VW (especially in 2014-2015 when Polo was clearly best).
In Polo, also before the introduction of "anti-Ogier" two day sweeping he could push 100% for 2-3 stages and already had decent lead, no stress afterwards.
Nowadays everything is much closer. Ogier is very often 2-4th fighting with someone with better roadposition . Yet he stays cool, pushes when he can and gets points. (Rare time he didn't keep his cool was in Arctic vs Solberg).
I am quite sure he could drive faster on many stages this year, but at a higher risk of mistakes. Point gain would easily be lower.
He is a champion cause he is using his head more than others. Not because he only gains from others mistakes.
Since you mention Sardinia his first day drive was the most impressive drive so far this year to me.
There's not much to say about him, many often complained how he pushes too much and this year he isn't pushing as much, maybe he's being more cautious also because the new codriver. He made just one serious driving mistake, in Portugal. In Croatia he could have won, but Hyundai decided to lose with their tyre choice. In Kenya he could have won, but the car fell apart. Considering Hyundai was able to win only one rally this season, I don't see his situation particularly bad. Nobody can win this championship apart from Ogier anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by trykmann
Ogier's dominance in VW was absolute, but VW was miles ahead of the other cars.
This year in Toyota, I don't see how he's being that incredibly smart. We know he's very consistent, and that is helped by the good reliability of Toyota.
I don't believe for a second Hyundai has nothing to do with all those suspension failures (among other reliability problems) and it's just Tanak and Neuville "not driving safe". Tanak is a world champion and Neuville won many events, they know how to back off, it would be an insult to their intelligence.
After all, last year it was Evans who almost won the championship, and this year Evans will probably end runner-up again: not a coincidence it's another Toyota.
Remember there were only 7 rallies last year. That still a 30% win ratio for each.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
In 2013 he had a 64% win rate, in 2014 and 2015 it was 61%, in 2016 he was at 46%. Today he sits at 57% so far, that's starting to get pretty close.
For comparison, in 2017 it was 15%, in 2018 it was 30% and in 2019 it was 23%.
I was reading some old news about the new R5 development and this comment got my attention:
“The feeling is very, very good,” he said. “It’s predictable and consistent when it comes to the roll centre and the transition of grip and weight in the corner. This sort of thing’s not going to win you a load of seconds in terms of performance, but what it does do is give you a sensation of what the car’s doing and why it’s doing it.”
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/what-...st-rally2-car/
I am just guessing, but this might describe also quite accurately, why a lot of drivers couldn't handle the current WRC car as they maybe wanted.
5 years since Hyundai had understreering issues in Spain...and they still have understreering issues and only Neuville can fight in the top.
2 years each for Mikkelsen, Loeb and Tanak and limited change.
It sounds quite funny when Solberg comes to end of first day and says they have to try to fix understeer....no shit.
All except Neuville looking forward to next year I guess.
Following with my month old post.
We got last rally of 2017 i20 and all drivers (maybe bare Suninen) complained about understeer on allive.
The funny thing though (as also pointed out by J. Porter) is that they all complain, yet the times weren't all that bad.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Well a car that handels/feels "bad" isn't necessarily slow. Sometimes drivers talk very fondly of uncompetitive cars because they were very balanced to drive.
Is this the right place to post but kinda sad really.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGAWWftX...pg&name=medium
Who could be taking over from Adamo?
Doe they have a candidate inhouse, or will they get one from outside?
What qualifications are important in a role like this?
In other news, https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/n...pdate/6860567/
Thierry Neuville’s World Rally Championship co-driver Martijn Wydaeghe is expecting to contest next year’s Monte Carlo Rally season opener after sustaining a shoulder injury in a testing crash last week.
Neuville and Wydaeghe were involved in a frightening crash while testing Hyundai’s all-new 2022 Rally1 hybrid challenger in France last weekend.
The i20 ran off the road, suffering heavy damage which curtailed the team’s maiden test of the car expected to be close to the final iteration that will contest the WRC’s first season of new hybrid regulations.
Paramedics treated Wydaeghe’s shoulder injury on site before he and Neuville were transferred to a hospital in Montpellier for further evaluation. Hyundai confirmed the pair was released from hospital on Saturday.
Wydaeghe has now returned home confirming he has undergone surgery on his shoulder, while also revealing the injury is expected to heal in four weeks.
The news should mean he will be fit enough to contest the Monte Carlo season opener on 20-23 January.
“Hello everyone! Just wanted to give you some news!,” read a post on Wydaeghe’s social media channels.
“I had a little surgery on my collarbone and I’m back home. All good and don’t worry I will have fully recovered in four weeks.
“Thanks you for all your kind messages of support and see you in Monte Carlo.”
This year was Wydaeghe’s first in the WRC having been plucked to replace Neuville’s long-time co-driver Nicolas Gilsoul just weeks before the Monte Carlo season opener.
The duo went on to score two WRC wins this season in Belgium and Spain to finish third in the championship standings behind Toyota's title-contending pair of Sebastien Ogier and Elfyn Evans.
Wydaeghe’s update on his injury comes on the same day Hyundai confirmed team principal Andrea Adamo will leave the team with immediate effect after six years.
Adamo’s day-to-day responsibilities will be assumed in the short-term by company president Scott Noh, with support from the respective department managers until a new appointment is announced.
Just keep Gabriele Tarquini's name. At least for the touring car arm.
What incident where Adamo shouted to one person or several are you talking about?
Was this filmed, is there a link?
This one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
https://streamable.com/8ud138
From the Monza 2021 thread.
Whoever thinks this is a thing needs to go outside more.Quote:
Originally Posted by User
There was more to it than that - but let's leave it there........Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
What's with the Finnish press guys on Twitter with constantly thinly veiled remarks about the Hyundai team shutting down...
I just find it weird. If you have information, and you believe in what you're saying, write a story.
there's a lot of that same "i know something but I'll tell you it in riddles" going on right now on these forums...Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
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But, if we play with the tought of Hyundai leaving, is it the dead end of Rally1?
Rally2 is the new topclass after a joke of a 2022 season ?
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You really think some of us will reveal every detail here publicly?Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
I was laughed out here last week when I said Adamo MIGHT go, I was laughed also yesterday when I said he is gone now but it was announced an hour later.
Yet I was right.
I mean it’s fine to me and people can choose if they believe it or not.
What I find absurd here is that some guys here start to generate own rumors by the press releases yesterday and think whatever other reasons.
And Wuorela in Twitter isn’t any different at the moment.
The press releases are one thing (you can say whatever there) but the real truth is always different.
,,I know things, but won't say them out here (although, must hint smth to make it interesting)..
If people don't have sources to check certain sayings then they can comment and ask about them.. or they have to wait until ,,someone from the inside'' comes up with another ,,I know'' or ,,might be'' thing..?
Most of those posts by "journalists" (actually hacks because they neither know anything nor can they write, all they are good at is clickbait) is noise to draw attention and fill empty space. And same with this forum, some people here actually know, most can't say and then you have varying degrees of responses by varying degrees of people. After a while you know how to read a post depending on who wrote it.
Also after Hyundai withdraws Neuville will rent Fiesta WRC17 from Malcolm, you heard it here first, I also know what Ott will drive but won't say yet.
MS-RT Fiat Panda?Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
With your final remark you have both helped explain why that first paragraph happens and become a part of it. It's not a negative situation like you make it sound. There's no cookies for being correct, first or being in the loop and knowing for a fact that somebody is wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by seb_sh
I've not been here long enough to know who you are. Even if you are Thierry, this is a public forum. I'm going to poke your idea and ask why would he be in a WRC assuming Hyundai are footing the bill?