2012 Presidential Race

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Originally Posted by Starter

With my limited understanding of British politics, I believe you are correct.

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Mark may find it it odd that the president can---and often has been--- from "the other party" that either or both the House and Senate, but even odder is ---particularly in light of how the statements by madmen who keep yelling "we need to stick to the Constitution the way the Founding Farthers done did it!!!" that originally, as instituted, in US Presidential Elections he with the most votes was Pres, he with second most was Vice-Pres...

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

If people like socialism so much, move to Europe....lol

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Is this the conclusion to your PhD thesis?

Janvan,
What you refuse to admit is that capitalism is the only economic system to ever show consistent and an increasing of better standings of living. As tough as the economy gets, capitalism still shows hope and growth. Why ? Because it works !
No other system has shown such great progress and improvements in production, technology, growth, etc.

It focuses on free enterprise and individual rights. It has worked better than government "socialized" programs. The less government is involved in our lives, the better off we are. The Constitution was written to protect man from the government and the Bill of Rights was actually written as an anti-government document to give individuals rights superiority. The government's first job is to protect our lives, not run them. I dont know how you cant see that...

Thomas Jefferson said it good... "Government that governs least, governs best.

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

If people like socialism so much, move to Europe....lol

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No, you still need to answer why Capitalism fails every few years, maybe from where ever you move to.
I believe somebody has already in this thread suggested Mogadishu, I second the suggestion.

MODERATORS---who really aren't. In US Political threads what this guy just did IS HIGHLY OFFENSIVE.

FEW things are more offensive, particularly when a persons whose every post, virtulaly every word seems so ill informed that it seems like (seems---qualifier, like---'as if" those are mitigating words) its a crazy person writing.

Moderators, you people sling around "denmerits" will-nilly---do you job.

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

Thomas Jefferson said it good... "Government that governs least, governs best.

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Why then does it fail---you forgot 2008?

And Jefferson was a rich man, he did not see the busrting forth onto the world of a middle class of hundreds of millions--which was created by limiting the excesses of naked Capitalism here as well as everywhere civilised.
It was limiting done by the representatives of the People-for the people .

It's why you can read, even if it is at an appalling poor level..

Stop with the quotes, you whatever you name is tell us why Capitalism FAILS every few years.

What some of you guys, including Janvan, said to me is HIGHLY OFFENSIVE. Attacking me personally, calling me and idiot, moron, troll, etc. That is clearly a violation of TOS.

But I am done arguing in here. It's clearly going nowhere. I never could reason with a liberal...lol Oh well, just wait until November gets here and this will be settled once and for all. I just hope you all can seriously look at how bad this country has become and will even get worse if we re-elect this President. There is no hope with him.

Obama himself said that if he cant turn this economy around in 1 term than he is done. Well, the economy didnt turn around, it got worse and he is running again so this again shows he cant keep any of his promises.

So take care everyone, Im out of this topic.

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

What some of you guys, including Janvan, said to me is HIGHLY OFFENSIVE. Attacking me personally, calling me and idiot, moron, troll, etc. That is clearly a violation of TOS.

But I am done arguing in here. It's clearly going nowhere. I never could reason with a liberal...lol Oh well, just wait until November gets here and this will be settled once and for all. I just hope you all can seriously look at how bad this country has become and will even get worse if we re-elect this President. There is no hope with him.

Obama himself said that if he cant turn this economy around in 1 term than he is done. Well, the economy didnt turn around, it got worse and he is running again so this again shows he cant keep any of his promises.

So take care everyone, Im out of this topic.

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To be fair to you, you haven't ever really been in the topic. All you've done is start it, post a few pictures you've taken off the internet to illustrate what you think, not answered most of the questions put to you and come across as someone with little to offer in the way of political opinion.

Quick tip — if you want people to take your views a bit more seriously, writing sentences like 'I never could reason with a liberal...lol' doesn't help.

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Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

FEW things are more offensive, particularly when a persons whose every post, virtulaly every word seems so ill informed that it seems like (seems---qualifier, like---'as if" those are mitigating words) its a crazy person writing.

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I think that's rather harsh. Ill-informed, certainly, and not especially well-educated, probably — but not 'crazy' in this instance.

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

Rachel Maddow...That is hilarious. This liberal woman spews out a bunch of junk. I cant stand to listen to her for more than 1 minute....lol

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I wonder how long she could stand listening to you?!

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

Some great quotes on how capitalism is the best economic system.....

America's abundance was created not by public sacrifices to the common good, but by the productive genius of free men who pursued their own personal interests and the making of their own private fortunes. They did not starve the people to pay for America's industrialization. They gave the people better jobs, higher wages, and cheaper goods with every new machine they invented, with every scientific discovery or technological advance -- and thus the whole country was moving forward and profiting, not suffering, every step of the way.



The core dynamic of the capitalist system is the accumulation process, a process in which a portion of the profits reaped through the sale of goods and services is reinvested, swelling the capital stock, incorporating new technologies in the process, and permitting larger sales and profits in the future.

And by Winston Churchill..

Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance and the gospel of envy.


The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.

Ronald Reagan..
It is old-fashioned, even reactionary to remind people that free enterprise has done more to reduce poverty than all the government programs dreamed up by Democrats.

In this era of big government, we sometimes forget that many of our proudest achievements as a nation came not through government, but through private citizens, individuals whose genius and generosity flourished in this climate of freedom.

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OK let's play the game. The above definitions were all right, back in the day, FFW to today and I ask you: are those bolded parts in those definitions still true?!