Max Mosley opens a can of worms.

The Dutch club president has stopped just short of calling the vote corrupt:

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Van Woerkom also said that it was normal that the clubs getting money from the FIA voted in favour of Mosley, although he denied there was corruption involved.

"It is more or less difficult to say, but there is a lot of money going around and if you get a small piece of that bread it can be very nice to eat," Van Woerkom said.

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67959

He also agrees that the smaller clubs effectively saved Max:

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"And he has a lot of contacts with the smaller clubs and what we have seen in the general assembly is that more or less the smaller clubs are in favour.

"But when you look to the bigger clubs, the AAA (USA), the triple A in Australia, the JAF (Japan) of 70 million members, the ADAC in Germany, the NWB in the Netherlands, they all are against. So when you count the members behind the members then I don't think he will succeed."

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Originally Posted by ioan

They are still paying the price for the WWII.

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Don't be so silly. No they are not. What is done is done. The only person in this sorry saga who made a reference to the Germans and Nazi's was Max and his reposte of BMW and Mercedes......

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Don't be so silly. No they are not. What is done is done. The only person in this sorry saga who made a reference to the Germans and Nazi's was Max and his reposte of BMW and Mercedes......

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That's the sort of jibe you would expect. He just can't seem to let go of it, can he?

Damon Hill believes that Mosley staying on could damage the chances of the British government investing in the British GP.

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"We really need an organisation like the FIA to help us protect our position so that we can have reasonable terms from the commercial rights holders.

"It's very difficult, when you have a president who is as controversial as Max is, to argue the case for funding for Formula 1 from the government if we need to.

"I think not taking on board the general political atmosphere is sometimes a strength, but in this case it seems to be really inconsiderate for the sport."

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http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=42853

Damon appears to agree with the prevailing view that Max is bad for the sport's image.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Theissen always looked like a very serious and decent person, so this is no surprise for me.

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Saying that you respect a decision is not the same as saying you agree with it. Mario was one of the first people to openly criticise Max (link here).

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Originally Posted by Monaro Doorslammer

That depends on how fair a vote it was. By the sounds of things, much smaller automobile clubs had the same 'one vote, one value' as much larger clubs.

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These are national clubs, why would Finland or Sweden count less than the USA for example?!
Or what about China and India or Bresil or Pakistan? Shouldn't these count 3-4 times more than the USA? Or 10-20 times more than GB?!
Just think about it!

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Originally Posted by Monaro Doorslammer

No, something is definitely not right. Everyone should know better than to assume all is well and not bribing anyone. It's never that simple higher up.

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There is no bribing involved.

What the Dutch representative said is that the smaller clubs from poorer countries get more money from the common fonds in order to raise the level of the automobile related activities in those countries.

No one said anything about bribing.

It is never simple higher up, but if we go with your logic than none of the governments should stay on.

You do wonder if, having received a mandate today, that Max will now tell us that only he can save the FIA but that he will need a further term to do so!

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

Saying that you respect a decision is not the same as saying you agree with it. Mario was one of the first people to openly criticise Max (link here).

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As I said, Germans have to criticize Mosley because of their past, they can't do otherwise.

However some of them are sensible people and don't go the extreme route.

I didn't say he agreed with anything.

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

Damon Hill believes that Mosley staying on could damage the chances of the British government investing in the British GP.



http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=42853

Damon appears to agree with the prevailing view that Max is bad for the sport's image.

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Well, you see the problem is that, anyone will now associate Max with what he did behind closed doors. Now, regretful though it is that it came out, it did. The world and his hamster now knows the kind of man he is, when before, they just knew the public face of Max.

That IS the problem. Peoples perception. From the public, to the bigwigs in the boardroom see him in a very different light.

So, the focus can no longer be 100% on the task at hand. He therefore is severely handicapped from doing his job.

WHat have we learned today? That despite the big hitting clubs voting against Max, it was the small insignificant ones that held the aces. Max knew that all along. He never had a doubt he would lose, not in the slightest.

But, it's about as genuine a victory as the one Mugabe tried to take.

Does Max think that, now he has won the vote, no one knows what he did in that Chelsea basement?

Let us just see what happens in the next few days. The atmosphere in the Montral paddock will be a good barometer......

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

Damon Hill believes that Mosley staying on could damage the chances of the British government investing in the British GP.

http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?id=42853

Damon appears to agree with the prevailing view that Max is bad for the sport's image.

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Not that Damon often agreed with Mosley. This is all politics.
And what Damon "believes" might be true or not.