[WRC] News & rumours (part II)

It seems that 2014's Rally Sweden will be the last Swedish WRC rally for many many years.

According to this article Rally Sweden have to sign the three year contract before the end of this month
and pay the new fee if they want to stay in the WRC for 2015-2017.Otherwise they will be dropped and
replaced by a Russian WRC Rally.

http://www.bilsport.se/artikel/rally-sw ... l-just-nu/

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Originally Posted by NxOxT

Citroen are not a proper manufacturer since 2013.

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Why? Just because the unshaved doesn't drive for them anymore? http://forum.2108.kiev.ua/style_emot...pod_stolom.gif

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http://s18.postimg.org/oct1lea2d/pil...che=1382524650

A message from Micha? Ko?ciuszko in his facebook:

Unfortunately I will not drive the rally car till the end of the season. Injury form Germany is more serious. I'm furious with this but I need to think long-term.
Now it's time for rehabilitation, so I can be 100% ready for rallying at the and of the year...

http://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/neuv ... 5c19f01e62

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http://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/neuville-aime-hyundai-525e2dc83570225c19f01e62

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Qatar following Neuville to Hyundai would be a disaster for M-Sport's WRC program. Just for their sake, I hope the Belgian will stay with Wilson's team.

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http://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/neuville-aime-hyundai-525e2dc83570225c19f01e62

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Qatar following Neuville to Hyundai would be a disaster for M-Sport's WRC program. Just for their sake, I hope the Belgian will stay with Wilson's team.

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for sure Neuville is not on an easy position to decide.Each team has their + and -
Hyundai= how good will be the 2014 i20, when at middle 2014 will prepare the new 2015 model which will have enough rally life 3+years?Will the 2015 model will be up at fiesta/ds3/polo level?
Ford= will they have budget enough to evolute the fiesta for 2-3 years more? About salary vs hyundai? for sure enough millions less than hyundai.
Citroen seems that is out of Neuvilles likes.

Another point we have to think is that Neuville we haven t got a clear rally from him without big mistakes.I want to see him at top place without mistakes and be lucky to finish.
For sure now keeps at his hands the game,but his decision is very difficult because there is not the clearly ''right'' decision.

So MW doesn´t have an own agreement with Quatar himself? I do Believe he has, because of all the other cars having Quatar stickers. So unless Neuvill stays or leaves MW should be benefitted in some way? Or contract maybe for a year only (2013)?

Not sure if Qatar Ford and Qatar MSport run in the same business agreement.

http://www.sport24.com/auto-moto/rallye ... tes-659198

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This is all too cryptic !Are we sure we are all talking about the same 'He'? However if informed opinion says that this is the shortlist and the deciding factor will be cash, then a Kubica / Ostberg ticket looks to be the most likely imv.

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This is the "he":

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http://www.sport24.com/auto-moto/rallye/actualites/matton-on-discute-avec-cinq-pilotes-659198

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By the way, if all countries had the common sense that Swedes have, WRC would be much better the years to come.

Interesting interview with Matton......

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http://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/neuville-aime-hyundai-525e2dc83570225c19f01e62

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Another point we have to think is that Neuville we haven t got a clear rally from him without big mistakes.I want to see him at top place without mistakes and be lucky to finish.
For sure now keeps at his hands the game,but his decision is very difficult because there is not the clearly ''right'' decision.

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I wonder if Neuville's move is because he thinks they is little left in the Fiesta? Having to drive at 11/10ths to challenge Ogier can't be ideal, as well as the risk involved.
Can see the attraction of Hyundai, new team, big budget and gets to be top dog. Maybe a year of testing about in the current model but with 2015 and a new car he'll feel like Ogier...

Bet Papa Wilson wishes he put a 3 yr contract under Neuville's pen.........

Drivers have as number one priority one thing only... MONEY... In the star trek universe some of you live in maybe you think that they care about being competitive and that romantic sunset things but in a sport like rallying and especially nowadays where there are very few drivers who even getting payed the number one priority IS and WILL BE money... there in not a single driver in the history of motorsport that went for performance over money.

If Hyundai pays Neuvile he will go there and he will do the right thing for himself.

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Drivers have as number one priority one thing only... MONEY... In the star trek universe some of you live in maybe you think that they care about being competitive and that romantic sunset things but in a sport like rallying and especially nowadays where there are very few drivers who even getting payed the number one priority IS and WILL BE money... there in not a single driver in the history of motorsport that went for performance over money.

If Hyundai pays Neuvile he will go there and he will do the right thing for himself.

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It is obvious you have never driven a rally car and you have never paid thousands of euros to get 5 extra bhp or find the best set-up for your suspension. If you think that there is one rally driver on earth that puts money above being competitive, I suggest you change sport. Chasing money is a very low level activity. Let bankers, politicians and other reptiles do it. Rally drivers are not that low.

Solgerg got stuck with Subaru for money only and that's exactly what drove him to the dead end of his career.
Not to mention, ironically, what it eventually cost him to be unemployed.

Neuville is young and talented, he can afford a couple of years hiatus even if the I20 turns out to be an average car.

Usually good money and the good car not far from eachother ( maybe some shifting in time)

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/110819

If it is so then the next year WRC title will be VW home play.
Hope MW fighting for Thierry

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/110819

If it is so then the next year WRC title will be VW home play.
Hope MW fighting for Thierry

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Think MW has lost the battle...

Another rumour about Thierry from twitter: WRC breaking: sources, Belgian, Thierry Neuville to decide next week on €2m-plus 3-yr deal at newcomers, Hyundai

Definately the temptation is heavy!

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Another rumour about Thierry from twitter: WRC breaking: sources, Belgian, Thierry Neuville to decide next week on €2m-plus 3-yr deal at newcomers, Hyundai

Definately the temptation is heavy!

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Interesting what a change in his status has occurred this year. Hanninen as no 2? or will they use a string of no. 2s?

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Drivers have as number one priority one thing only... MONEY... In the star trek universe some of you live in maybe you think that they care about being competitive and that romantic sunset things but in a sport like rallying and especially nowadays where there are very few drivers who even getting payed the number one priority IS and WILL BE money... there in not a single driver in the history of motorsport that went for performance over money.

If Hyundai pays Neuvile he will go there and he will do the right thing for himself.

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It is obvious you have never driven a rally car and you have never paid thousands of euros to get 5 extra bhp or find the best set-up for your suspension. If you think that there is one rally driver on earth that puts money above being competitive, I suggest you change sport. Chasing money is a very low level activity. Let bankers, politicians and other reptiles do it. Rally drivers are not that low.

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Another rumour about Thierry from twitter: WRC breaking: sources, Belgian, Thierry Neuville to decide next week on €2m-plus 3-yr deal at newcomers, Hyundai

Definately the temptation is heavy!

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Interesting what a change in his status has occurred this year. Hanninen as no 2? or will they use a string of no. 2s?

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Nandan himself has said in interview on iRally that they will have probably more than 2 drivers next year, so I guess they will use maybe 2 or 3 drivers as no. 2

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Drivers have as number one priority one thing only... MONEY... In the star trek universe some of you live in maybe you think that they care about being competitive and that romantic sunset things but in a sport like rallying and especially nowadays where there are very few drivers who even getting payed the number one priority IS and WILL BE money... there in not a single driver in the history of motorsport that went for performance over money.

If Hyundai pays Neuvile he will go there and he will do the right thing for himself.

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It is obvious you have never driven a rally car and you have never paid thousands of euros to get 5 extra bhp or find the best set-up for your suspension. If you think that there is one rally driver on earth that puts money above being competitive, I suggest you change sport. Chasing money is a very low level activity. Let bankers, politicians and other reptiles do it. Rally drivers are not that low.

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when you are an amateur nobody yes...

when you in the top league NO... name a driver that opted for performance over money...

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Another rumour about Thierry from twitter: WRC breaking: sources, Belgian, Thierry Neuville to decide next week on €2m-plus 3-yr deal at newcomers, Hyundai

Definately the temptation is heavy!

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Interesting what a change in his status has occurred this year. Hanninen as no 2? or will they use a string of no. 2s?

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Nandan himself has said in interview on iRally that they will have probably more than 2 drivers next year, so I guess they will use maybe 2 or 3 drivers as no. 2

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more than 2 cars or more than two drivers?

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It is obvious you have never driven a rally car and you have never paid thousands of euros to get 5 extra bhp or find the best set-up for your suspension. If you think that there is one rally driver on earth that puts money above being competitive, I suggest you change sport. Chasing money is a very low level activity. Let bankers, politicians and other reptiles do it. Rally drivers are not that low.

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when you are an amateur nobody yes...

when you in the top league NO... name a driver that opted for performance over money...

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Ogier

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more than 2 cars or more than two drivers?

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2 cars for more than 2 drivers.

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Ogier left because of the Loeb/Quesnel/Citroen feud... nothing to do with money/performance.

what left? I am talking about decision to stay in 2011

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Ogier left because of the Loeb/Quesnel/Citroen feud... nothing to do with money/performance.

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Ogier earned much more money from vw vs citroen.Wasnt the main reason,but he gained much more money.

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what left? I am talking about decision to stay in 2011

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you mean that Ford did an offer with bigger sallary?

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more than 2 cars or more than two drivers?

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2 cars for more than 2 drivers.

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Yes, he means more than 2 drivers to drive the second car.

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what left? I am talking about decision to stay in 2011

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did he have any other offers that were better than citroen ?? Citroen had the biggest budget until VW came...

Slowson i care about you... you are a different person after all the ridicule the unshaved one imposed on you all these years...

let it go man... he cannot hurt you anymore... the nightmare is over... i promise.

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Drivers have as number one priority one thing only... MONEY... In the star trek universe some of you live in maybe you think that they care about being competitive and that romantic sunset things but in a sport like rallying and especially nowadays where there are very few drivers who even getting payed the number one priority IS and WILL BE money... there in not a single driver in the history of motorsport that went for performance over money.

If Hyundai pays Neuvile he will go there and he will do the right thing for himself.

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It is obvious you have never driven a rally car and you have never paid thousands of euros to get 5 extra bhp or find the best set-up for your suspension. If you think that there is one rally driver on earth that puts money above being competitive, I suggest you change sport. Chasing money is a very low level activity. Let bankers, politicians and other reptiles do it. Rally drivers are not that low.

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@NOT dont make general rules.i must remind you that ayrton manifested in public that he was willing to drive for williams without getting paid in order to had the same car with prost in1993.Need greater example?please read some history!

@scn you think that all drivers think the way you think.if someone is an amateur then yes performance is only that counts but when rallying racing is your occupation you think in a different way.remember kimi when he stayed out of the f1 championsip in order to take the whole compensation from ferrari while he was having offers from other teams.I must say i dont like your approach about other people's thoughts.for you someone must have spent a respectable amount of money to have right opinion-perception about the sport. For you Only by spending money to evolve and fine-tune your car you have right perception about the sport.I think this is a big insult for all funs(including me)SORRY i dont have the financial ability to be a driver and spend money for evolving and fine-tuning(thats why i still remain fun- not of our domestic championsip of course because i dont have the level to judje the greek drivers thats why the spectators to the greek championships are other drivers).if i had the financial ability then i would be rally driver but unfortunatelly i dont.Its obvious that for you right perception goes hand by hand with money.

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@NOT dont make general rules.i must remind you that ayrton manifested in public that he was willing to drive for williams without getting paid in order to had the same car with prost in1993.Need greater example?please read some history!

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saying is different from doing... of course no driver admits that they go for money, but the truth is there, and everyone does it

money is what makes the world go around unfortunatelly...

and do not bring ladyboy sports into rallying it makes me sick...

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you are a different person after all

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You want to say you can make a comparison because you know me from before it all started?

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what left? I am talking about decision to stay in 2011

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you mean that Ford did an offer with bigger sallary?

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what left? I am talking about decision to stay in 2011

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did he have any other offers that were better than citroen ?? Citroen had the biggest budget until VW came...

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Confirmed recently from Quesnel and I remember I heard it from Wilson too. Sure I trust these two team managers instead of fans agonising of nostalgia.

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Confirmed recently from Quesnel and I remember I heard it from Wilson too. Sure I trust these two team managers instead of fans agonising of nostalgia.

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can you provide some proof apart from what you remember ? i have not come across something like that myself maybe i missed it.

is this the only you can reply? what proof you want, copy of the written offer? if Quesnel lied, why nobody has yet showed up to say it?

and if you didn't see that, perhaps you were too busy in your bedroom with some multimedia of loeb at that time.

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is this the only you can reply? what proof you want, copy of the written offer? if Quesnel lied, why nobody has yet showed up to say it?

and if you didn't see that, perhaps you were too busy in your bedroom with some multimedia of loeb at that time.

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no i do not need the written offer, i need a source/interview of quesnel and wilson saying that.

Did Quesnel say anything about money? He said that Ogier had a contract with Ford ready to be signed but Ogier wanted to stay at Citroen provided that Loeb was not clear No1. No mention of money if I am not mistaken.

i only found this one...but no mention of more money.

http://www.wrc.com/news/ogier-consideri ... ?fid=13188