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Job offer anyone?
Knowledge of WRC cars is needed though...
http://www.toyota-motorsport.com/images/tmg/(Senior)%20Development%20Engineer%20-%20Rally%20Car%20Project.pdf
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There was an article about Toyota and their return to WRC in Racecar Engineer a few months ago. Basically they have an engine in development, and the return is a few years away, it went as far as saying 'at the next technical regulations in 2016/17. Toyota eont come in under the existing rules, it may be me misreading things but it hinted at some form of new engine / hybrid.
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Who writes the WRC Tweets?
Chrome translation tool didn't work..................
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Originally Posted by MJW
There was an article about Toyota and their return to WRC in Racecar Engineer a few months ago. Basically they have an engine in development, and the return is a few years away, it went as far as saying 'at the next technical regulations in 2016/17. Toyota won't come in under the existing rules, it may be me misreading things but it hinted at some form of new engine / hybrid.
I can well believe that. They, Toyota are into the hybrids in a big way - WRC seems to have been left behind, whereas they seem to be all the rage in the WEC, with flywheels, capacitors used. Could it be the hybrid/ electric is used on the road sections?
I wonder how many other Manufacturers are interested in the WRC, but don't like the current cars/ regs.
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I can well believe that. They, Toyota are into the hybrids in a big way - WRC seems to have been left behind, whereas they seem to be all the rage in the WEC, with flywheels, capacitors used. Could it be the hybrid/ electric is used on the road sections?
I wonder how many other Manufacturers are interested in the WRC, but don't like the current cars/ regs.
If You want to make WRC much more expensive and much harder to maintain by private teams go for hybrids...
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ØSTBERG: Mads Østberg confirms talks with Citroën Racing, Hyundai WRC and M-Sport for 2014:
http://translate.google.com/translat...-perdida-15396
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Exactly!! New technology is expensive. I understand ‘road relevance’ in Motorsport – but I wonder if that should be left to F1/ Sportscars.......
Let WRC try and put on a fantastic show – which at the moment it’s not quite doing.
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I can well believe that. They, Toyota are into the hybrids in a big way - WRC seems to have been left behind, whereas they seem to be all the rage in the WEC, with flywheels, capacitors used. Could it be the hybrid/ electric is used on the road sections?
I wonder how many other Manufacturers are interested in the WRC, but don't like the current cars/ regs.
If You want to make WRC much more expensive and much harder to maintain by private teams go for hybrids...
Hybrids may be OK in circuits, including LeMans, but I wouldnt want to be in a crash in a stage withh all that stored electrical energy and fire risks. KERS runs very hot, imagine going off the road and have a KERS fire. No thanks.
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Mads to Citroen may make sense, especially if what I hear about their driver line up is true, (a circuit racer and a south Europe tarmac specialist) Mads would give them a chance in Sweden, plus Citroen 2014 will require some additional finance. ;) and lets face it Morten hasnt had good value from his sons first year as a works driver.
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Mads to Citroen may make sense, especially if what I hear about their driver line up is true, (a circuit racer and a south Europe tarmac specialist) Mads would give them a chance in Sweden, plus Citroen 2014 will require some additional finance. ;) and lets face it Morten hasnt had good value from his sons first year as a works driver.
He hasn't, but that's not M-Sport's fault.
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Can someone please give me a current summary of the rumours for who could go where in 2014 ?
Many thanks.
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Mads to Citroen may make sense, especially if what I hear about their driver line up is true, (a circuit racer and a south Europe tarmac specialist) Mads would give them a chance in Sweden, plus Citroen 2014 will require some additional finance. ;) and lets face it Morten hasnt had good value from his sons first year as a works driver.
He hasn't, but that's not M-Sport's fault.
well, halfway it is. lets say its 50% mads and 50% M-sports fault. its been way to much technical trubble for mads and jonas this season that it can be all theire fault. that wheels fell of is most certain drivers fault, waterpumps, electronic faults and similiar bugs is hardly drivers fault.
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Mads hasn't had great pace this year either! He's been overshadowed by the man in the 'support team', Neuville.
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Can someone please give me a current summary of the rumours for who could go where in 2014 ?
Many thanks.
Grönholm and Loeb will not return (in 2014)- out of this everything possible and the opposite also. :lips:
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Hybrids may be OK in circuits, including LeMans, but I wouldnt want to be in a crash in a stage withh all that stored electrical energy and fire risks. KERS runs very hot, imagine going off the road and have a KERS fire. No thanks.
I would be mainly afraid of a crash into the water.
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Mads hasn't had great pace this year either! He's been overshadowed by the man in the 'support team', Neuville.
"Support team" is wrong. Three solitaire drivers have each driven this year at Ford, taking care of their own businesses in the first place, and with no or at least almost none management from MW. He´s only team leader collecting the rental money.
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Originally Posted by amilk
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Can someone please give me a current summary of the rumours for who could go where in 2014 ?
Many thanks.
Grönholm and Loeb will not return (in 2014)- out of this everything possible and the opposite also. :lips:
Ogier, Latvala and Mikkelsen to stay put other than that every seat is the subject of musical chairs (when the music stops....)
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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
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Originally Posted by amilk
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Can someone please give me a current summary of the rumours for who could go where in 2014 ?
Many thanks.
Grönholm and Loeb will not return (in 2014)- out of this everything possible and the opposite also. :lips:
Ogier, Latvala and Mikkelsen to stay put other than that every seat is the subject of musical chairs (when the music stops....)
No wonder I was confused ... guess its just a case of wait and see.. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
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Originally Posted by amilk
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Can someone please give me a current summary of the rumours for who could go where in 2014 ?
Many thanks.
Grönholm and Loeb will not return (in 2014)- out of this everything possible and the opposite also. :lips:
Ogier, Latvala and Mikkelsen to stay put other than that every seat is the subject of musical chairs (when the music stops....)
Then Latvala needs to start delivering, or Mikkelsen will overtake him.
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Then Latvala needs to start delivering, or Mikkelsen will overtake him.
Mikkelsen will overtake him? I'd say Andreas would need to start delivering first...
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Ogier, Latvala and Mikkelsen to stay put other than that every seat is the subject of musical chairs (when the music stops....)
Apart these three everyone else waits what Neuville does after that it's Mikko and then the others in random order.
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Ogier, Latvala and Mikkelsen to stay put other than that every seat is the subject of musical chairs (when the music stops....)
Then Latvala needs to start delivering, or Mikkelsen will overtake him.
Remind me, apart from Les Sebs who else has won a WRC event in 2013?
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Ogier, Latvala and Mikkelsen to stay put other than that every seat is the subject of musical chairs (when the music stops....)
Then Latvala needs to start delivering, or Mikkelsen will overtake him.
Remind me, apart from Les Sebs who else has won a WRC event in 2013?
Sordo
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LOL...
but he is right Mikkelsen has a few years still until he matches Latvalas pace consistently... Although the previous year he was very close to Ogiers times with the s2000 and that shows that the difference between the cars is rather big.
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LOL...
but he is right Mikkelsen has a few years still until he matches Latvalas pace consistently... Although the previous year he was very close to Ogiers times with the s2000 and that shows that the difference between the cars is rather big.
that is why i cant wait to See Robert Kubica in a WRC spec Car. before i cant have more hopes.. they are totaly different cars.
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Remind me, apart from Les Sebs who else has won a WRC event in 2013?
Sordo
:dork: (...and I was at Rally Deutschland to see it!!!)
Ok apart from Les Sebs and Danito's last chance - who else has won a WRC event in 2013? (a bit like 'What have the Romans ever done for us?')
Anyway 8G you coming over to Wales to see how Hans and Bjorn do in the DS3 3RT showdown?
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(a bit like 'What have the Romans ever done for us?')
:D :D :D
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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
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Remind me, apart from Les Sebs who else has won a WRC event in 2013?
Sordo
Anyway 8G you coming over to Wales to see how Hans and Bjorn do in the DS3 3RT showdown?
He entered!? Nice surprise and thanks for telling me.:D
Edit: wait a minute... Do we know if it's Weijs jr. or sr?
Edit 2: It's jr. Good!
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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
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Originally Posted by EightGear
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Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
Remind me, apart from Les Sebs who else has won a WRC event in 2013?
Sordo
:dork: (...and I was at Rally Deutschland to see it!!!)
Ok apart from Les Sebs and Danito's last chance - who else has won a WRC event in 2013? (a bit like 'What have the Romans ever done for us?')
Anyway 8G you coming over to Wales to see how Hans and Bjorn do in the DS3 3RT showdown?
Latvala
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[Latvala
Correctamundo, give the man a ceegar! ( :disturb: at last!)
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Five drives in consideration for Citroen drive in 2014-Hirvonen, Sordo, Kubica, Ostberg, Meeke according to Matton.
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Five drives in consideration for Citroen drive in 2014-Hirvonen, Sordo, Kubica, Ostberg, Meeke according to Matton.
he who brings the most will drive... Citroen are not a proper manufacturer since 2013.
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he who brings the most will drive...
And some say that he has signed since the end of July.
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LOL...
that is why i cant wait to See Robert Kubica in a WRC spec Car. before i cant have more hopes.. they are totaly different cars.
Not quite good comparison-S2000 is one big step under WRC car, Kubica's RRC is almost a WRC. Apart minor changes the car handles like proper WRC, so Kubica will have no excuse....
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Originally Posted by Ucci
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LOL...
that is why i cant wait to See Robert Kubica in a WRC spec Car. before i cant have more hopes.. they are totaly different cars.
Not quite good comparison-S2000 is one big step under WRC car, Kubica's RRC is almost a WRC. Apart minor changes the car handles like proper WRC, so Kubica will have no excuse....
S2000 and WRC rules are ABSOLUTELY same except engine, aerodynamics and few details. For example drivetrain or suspension rules are same. There is no reason for both to be significantly different to drive besides the fact that WRC is somewhat faster.
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Citroen are not a proper manufacturer since 2013.
Why? Just because the unshaved doesn't drive for them anymore? http://forum.2108.kiev.ua/style_emot...pod_stolom.gif
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Yep, a win is a win even when Latvala picks up Ogier's Polo pieces in Greece.
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he who brings the most will drive...
And some say that he has signed since the end of July.
This is all too cryptic !Are we sure we are all talking about the same 'He'? However if informed opinion says that this is the shortlist and the deciding factor will be cash, then a Kubica / Ostberg ticket looks to be the most likely imv.
