Gaps or no gaps between drivers don´t make rally good/bad.
For me rally is good:
-stages are different than in other rallies
-not all stages are similar
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Gaps or no gaps between drivers don´t make rally good/bad.
For me rally is good:
-stages are different than in other rallies
-not all stages are similar
Something along these lines...Quote:
Originally Posted by WRC1
Monte usually has huge gaps yet it's super exciting. Cause bad tyrechoice or just setup or even "feeling" in some icy section can turn everything around.
In Ypres you got for the most part 5s gains between drivers per day of rallying. So 10s gaps were "no chance to ever catch" level.
So the numbers "lie" about the excitment.
I raised this point also after Arctic and it's the same for Ypres.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
I prefer when organizers put different road types to different stages instead of "mixed" stage.
Say you make one stage with wide or fast road and next with narrow or twisty instead of two stages that are 50% of both.
Yes it's likely harder to make a route like that, but IMO organizers should try if possible.
Agree 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
I gues we'll have to agree to disagree then. :p
I'm not watching rally for the scenery but for the race. But thats des gouts et des couleurs i believe.
Perhaps it depends on whether you are watching the rally on the stages or watching live results at home?Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
I would say Arctic had fairly different stages especially considering how few stages the rally had. Basically three of the stages were typical Arctic Rally, very fast with occasional technical bits. Then the opening stage was like a mix of Jyväskylä jumps, fast Arctic and a long technical section, and the Saturday opening stage was really slow and technical. Of course, snow tends to blur the differences of the roads, in snow rallies the conditions vary from year to another.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
In Ypres it's like a completely different thing. For example SS1 was 15 km long and was comprised of 15 different roads (a few of them were used twice during the stage). The surfaces, widths and characteristics change all the time. It's fast at the same time but also technical with the frequent junction turns. So it's very unique and different to any other rally. The downside is that all stages are similar with each other, with just more emphasis on different things.
I also like it when stages have their own "jobs", like fast/slow, long/short, straightforward/technical, rough/smooth, but there's also many permutations available, and that makes it beautiful. Sometimes you may have one stage that differs from the others like Kizlan in Turkey which was a fast and smooth stage compared to the slow and rough stages.
You have some rallies which are the same stage all the way through like Mexico (except for the super specials) and sometimes you have rallies which are like many rallies in one (Argentina, Deutschland, Ypres with Spa).
I mean, of course I always enjoy a great fight. But we're talking about characteristics of different rallies and stages. You can tell when an onboard of a stage is boring to watch or not, even when it's outside the race circumstances. I also try to think what's enjoyable, challenging or interesting for a driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
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I live for the day we see images like these in WRCQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PYzaHDirXg
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/w...-2022/6653325/
The World Rally Championship could welcome as many as 12 new Rally1 cars in 2022 as the series enters its hybrid era, according to FIA rally director Yves Matton.
Next year the WRC will launch its new Rally1 sporting regulations which will see Toyota, Hyundai and M-Sport Ford field all-new hybrid rally cars to contest rallying’s top tier.
The cars are expected to be faster and safer than the current WRC machines and crucially will be fitted with plug-in 100kW hybrid system and a much tougher safety cell to protect the driver and co-driver.
Under the current rules the championship features 10 regular entries, but Matton believes the field could expand to 12 and maybe more come the second half of the 2022 campaign.
Toyota is expected to continue to field four cars along with Hyundai, while M-Sport is working on a plan to expand from two to three entries for next season, as previously reported.
“I strongly believe that with the information I have, but not for Monte Carlo [Round 1], that during the year we could have 12 cars,” Matton told Autosport.
“The feedback I have from the different manufacturers and the interest I have received from some drivers and I don’t know when, but it would not be in Monte Carlo, maybe it will be more in the second half of the year.
“I believe we will start with approximately 10 cars but it could go to 12 and maybe even more on some of the last events of the year.”
Matton says an idea to allow manufacturers to field a fourth car to score points in the manufacturers’ championship, but reserved for young drivers, is a possibility for the future, while confirming there has also been interest in Rally1 machinery from privateer competitors.
“I’m still convinced the idea to promote a fourth car for the manufacturer championship could be something for the future, but not mandatory, but a kind of bonus if they enter one more car based on maybe rookies or drivers without a huge level of experience in this kind of car,” he added.
“For sure at the beginning of the year it will be only manufacturer entries that will enter the cars.
“But from the feedback I have there are some privateers that have interest in Rally1.”
Toyota, Hyundai and M-Sport Ford are currently ramping up the development of their 2022 machines ahead of the start of the new season at the time honored Monte Carlo Rally from 21-23 January.
Toyota has been testing its new Yaris this month while M-Sport conducted a gravel test in Finland with its all-new Ford Puma and is currently embarking on a tarmac test in France this week.
Who's supposed to be the fourth Hyundai?
Loubet? How long is someone going to pay if he continues like this?
Shared car between Sordo and Solberg while Breen drives full season would be great though. ( and Adams could switch who is nominated for manu points). But I doubt that will happen.
No problem. Équipe de France FFSA Rallye has a lot of money...Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
But at some point they might decide to use it for example on Rossel instead?
I think sometimes Loubet gets threated too harsh, but lately there just doesn't seem to be any improvement.
Yeah, sure…Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Matton hopes for 12 Rally 1 cars - marvellous. Isn't he lucky - what a great job he's doing. In the meantime, yet another manufacturer has joined the long list in WEC/IMSA with Cadillac signing up.......
Just another blabla bs from him..
Ofc there are privateers, who would like to drive the new cars.. it's logical even without talking to drivers..
Only thing is that it needs money.. a lot of it.
It's normal. 2023 marks the centenary of the 24h of Le Mans, everyone wants to be there and have a chance of winning it. After that we will see how many Manus will remain in the WEC
And Cadillac is not the newcomer to this type of racing. WEC and IMSA made clever move with convergence of rules. You can produce one car and be competitive both: in USA and "Europe" (WEC).
Yes, and particularly if you chose the LMDh option rather than the Hypercar, the overall costs will be very low (relatively), and with the possibility to sell cars as well to private teams. It’s a a no brainier to get involved really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom K
That's why I do believe that rallying should have taken a step back and for a couple of years make Rally2(R5) their main category as well.
I do understand that it wouldn't be as spectacular but we would have got a lot of brands and cars to challenge for victories, and then maybe renegotiate with the manufacturer's broader regulations.
Look what happened with GT and Touring Cars. Both of them have nowadays cars that can be used anywhere and bought quite cheap and they are thriving.
Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
When WRC cars were introduced the FIA attitude was that they didn't want privateers in them because they were too fast and that there would be special licence requirements for drivers entering events in WRC cars.
It seems they have changed their mind.
This was in 2017 when privateers couldn't enter a car directly to a rally, but they had to have a manufacturer enter them (like Östberg was entered through M-Sport all year).Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Boyd
However, already in 2018 this seemed to change and since then we've had people with very little international or 4WD rally experience drive these WRC monsters (Jocius, Virtanen etc)
Rumors that Adamo might be getting replaced.
Are the rumors mentioning candidates to take over?
Andrew Johns from the customer racing department.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
(And don't come with P. Solberg, that would be the worst possible thing for Oliver to happen)
nice interview with Lappi https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/lappi...d-toyota-shot/
Breen linked to test Puma Rally1 and M-Sport deal:
https://rallyinsight.com/2021/09/02/...ropolis-rally/
bye Japan, hello Monza
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/rally...ing-its-place/
Well hopefully they reduce the circuit to 1 or even half-day max, cause if it doesn't rain it would be pretty boring.
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2021/wrc...s-wrc-fixture/
Japan cancellation is official.
Likely and hopefully Friday will be converted also into a proper rally day like 2020 Saturday. But both days could still conclude with the "Grand Prix" stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Yep. Even something like at the end of each loop in the mountains, run a stage at the circuit before midday & evening service. Two stages like that a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
But can imagine they will want to spend a full day at the circuit & more (especially if fans will be in attendance and tickets need sold).
They have great stages in the mountains.
what was the reason in 2019?
3 years in a row cancellations is kinda ridiculous IMO, other countries have COVID too, just saying....
bureaucracy and money..Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/r...89892/5289892/Quote:
However, plans to return to Japan were abandoned when the promoter came under pressure to retain the Tour de Corse.
Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
«*We are determined to do our best in order to overcome this Covid-19 pandemic and successfully be able to hold the WRC in Japan in 2022. I pray for the safety of all.”
A replacement event will be held to conclude the 2022 WRC season which will be confirmed shortly.
=> Probably a mistake in bold (2021 instead of 2022) but sounds like Monza Rallye will replace Japan
Also possibility they will push Monza to December and try to do second Monte Carlo. Maybe with studs allowed.
That would be fun for spectators, but I am not sure teams (and drivers) would be so happy about not having any holiday at all. (with testing of new cars for next seasons Monte).Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom K
So once again we will not have a championship that meets te requirements to hand out a world title.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR