the 208 r5 was also called T16, just like the 2013 pikes peak car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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the 208 r5 was also called T16, just like the 2013 pikes peak car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Guys, it is often said that rallying is not a popular sport. But maybe something is changing? Have you noticed that some of the drivers are turning into movie stars? Have you seen the last movies featuring Martins Sesks, Oliver Solberg and Ott Tanak? :)
"Champion at Nineteen" starring Martins Sesks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_pDfS06J8M
https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/s...o-1200x800.jpg
"Born to drive" starring Oliver Solberg:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyHofd1KQyI
http://www.autoklub.pl/media/201902/130615-oli.jpg
"Ott Tanak The Movie" starring Ott Tanak!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=3UPhX57OgR4
http://www.autoklub.pl/media/201902/130632-tanak.jpg
Tänak`s movie will be out 11.04 and that he is a god for local media, is also quite known...sometimes too much, but on a wider scale...sure, all live stats show that.
That trailer portrays him nearly as a serial killer ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop
Indeed. At first I was stunned why someone had made a documentary about Ilpo Larha, but then I saw Yaris WRC and thought that ok, maybe it's about a rally driver.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
Jokes aside, seems like a topnotch film. Hopefully it'll be available in Finland as well.
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/1...ettle-calendar
Now Todt wants more multi-country rallies...
To say the truth, I cannot imagine how this multi-country rallies can work...Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Time for Todt to retire.
Sweden-Norway works well, most other combinations probably not.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
And to be cheeky, what about Australia-New Zealand combination! And continuing dreaming, maybe this idea will make them increase the rally competitive distance ;)
Too far apart lol.. unlike Norway SwedenQuote:
Originally Posted by NickRally
Definititely better idea than Turkish-Greek rally ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by NickRally
Galiza (Spain) - Portugal
Sanremo - Monte-Carlo
Only 2000km between them! Its like Rally Ireland-Poland, but with an ocean in between instead of other countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickRally
I thought we live in the jet age - no two points on Earth are too far apart:)!Quote:
Originally Posted by racerx1979
The obvious issue with these cross-border events are mainly legislative ones. It's hell of bureaucracy to go through even for an event placed in one department of one country. Every border, even internal department one makes it harder and harder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
There aren't many cross-border events but there are some. In WRC Rally Sweden-Norway, in the past Poland-Lithuania. In other series Rally Ypres with stages in Belgium and France. There are likely more but it's still very very rare.
Edit: Technically Rallye Monte Carlo is also a cross-border event of Monaco and France.
Let's not dwell on the challenges, but think about the positives :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
Ireland-Poland is also overseas, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
Estonia - Latvia would be really good
Wales - England - Scotland....3 countries right there....wait, didn’t we used to do that?
Rally Estonia is already situated quite close to the border, and behind the border Rally Alüksne wouldn't be far either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
Think bigger. Poland-Lithuania-Latvia-Estonia-FinlandQuote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
But you should think also about business issues. To organise a WRC event, you need to have big budget, support of local government or also country government. If we take for example Estonia and Latvia - which country should be first in the name of the rally? Where should be main base of the rally? How it will be with money from sponsors - latvian sponsors will go through latvian organisers company and estonian through estonian organisers company? Or both will go only through one company? And will be latvian organiser (and also government) interested in supporting event which main base is Estonia and all the money goes through estonian company? And there should be lot of similar issues...
Good point! Only little bits of sea though.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Well that'd be one way to get Cyprus back on the calendar...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I can only really see this working well with Monte Carlo, working on the basis that you'd want to drop the French and Italian rounds from the calendar in order to let new countries in. Given the event's tradition of historically having starting points around Europe, you could get away with something similar to what the cycling Grand Tours have with the starts and opening days being held abroad. So with the Monte you could at least easily include the Sanremo/Italian stages before moving to the usual French stages. If the French can't be stripped of their own round they could be influenced to move their round back to the North East, then you can include Belgium, Germany or even Switzerland if there's interest. All have hosted starts of the Tour de France...
With France, Italy and Germany looking like being in the most peril, I imagine it's with this in mind that Todt has spoken. He's not talking to us, I imagine he's trying to influence the thinking of organisers in those countries. It's the easiest way to reduce three rallies into at least two anyway.
Makes a lot more sense to cross some borders than, oh I don't know, do a stage in Buenos Aires or Mexico City on Thursday night. The '1 day in Norway' works well for Sweden IMO and probably helps organisers offset costs.
If countries join forces to organize much larger events, like World or Euro football cups, why can’t they also do it in the WRC?
The WRC is spreading worldwide and it seems we’ll get fewer events in Europe in the future, despite a growing offer. Honestly, Todt proposal sounds better than loosing important events for the series (probably on a ‘who’s paying more’ selection) or going back to rotation (some time ago the promoter suggested 3 years in/out, which seems too long).
Maybe 2 countries events are a sort of utopia and they’ll never happen (at least on a larger scale than the Sweden/Norway case), but it’d be interesting to have a proper try.
I like the idea actually (where possible).
Monte, Italy San remo stages and than french Alps.
Spain and Portugal mayby?
Sweden -Norway is good.
Australia - New zealand would be great, but wil be to expensive i guess.
Germany - Belgium they where close to Belgian borther a few years ago, crossing the border is Neuville land, East belgian region.
Greece - Cyprus
Ireland - GB
Australia's best rally stages are all in New Zealand anyway, thats why so many Aussies come here to rally.
Australia is as close as you can get to paradise... and NZ is paradise :).Quote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
This is coming from someone currently in Victoria Aus.
And how should that work? Make a 3-4 day break between stages to get the cars on a ship those approx. 1000km over the mediterranean sea from Athens to Cyprus?Quote:
Originally Posted by Duvel
Yeah, most of the suggestions have been too abstract as well. You should start with an existing rally that is already close to the border like Rally Sweden is close to Norway's border. Meanwhile for example Rally Finland is so deep inside Finland that it could never co-operate with any country with the current regulations unless it would be moved to another city, and I just don't see that happening.
That could work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Duvel
The question is why would we want that? What can we gain by doing that?
Todt's main idea must have been to keep more of the classic European countries involved but with a smaller number of rallies, not to add in new European countries with no background in rallying
... and the ultimate variant is The Rally of European Union with the center in Brussels (or perhaps Paris instead)...
And then the Brexit rally with the old RAC route :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
yes,but the organizers will try to cancel the Brexit rally at very last moment :-D