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Would be cool to do a 3 day test with two top F1 drivers and two top WRC drivers using two days to learn eachothers 2017 version cars
3rd day competition on asphalt and gravel in the wrc car and a real F1 qual session.
Who will come out best in total time:
1. asphalt for both cars
2. adding gravel time to get final time.
Will it be a F1- or a Rallydriver on top of the podiums?
F1 world champion Kimi Raikkonen did the WRC in a very good car. He completely sucked. That is all you need to know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
When I watched that Red Bull promo video with Sainz senior and junior as rally instructors for Mark Webber and David Coulthard I was disappointed that the instructors weren't given runs against the clock. Junior may have even been faster than Dad as he mentioned he had been driving that dirt road on their estate since he was five years old!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Okey guys. Only about nine hours until the big Iberia derby. Anyone for beers?? Eeeh... maybe wine? Wait... brandy. Or do you fancy a rom and coke, maybe??
Happened last year - few different versions of this video - Sainz Jr vs Sainz Snr in crosskarts on dirt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Hokkaido
https://youtu.be/r2MqbHFFXoQ
I'm currently exploring the many different faces of gin and bourbon cocktails. For the Iberia derby Sagres with Brandy or Port might be more fitting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Rom and coke are too sweet for my taste. Grape brandy and cold beers for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
In addition to being a rally (and music) geek, I'm a big craft beer geek. Basically I don't even consume any other types of alcohol.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Considering France is a big wine country and Belgium is known for its strong ales, I like where the WRC title race is going :cool:
Yep, from the mid 80’s the Safari struggled adapting to a more ‘speed centered’ spirit of the WRC, boosted by Gr.B introduction, but in the 70’s the Safari was an iconic rally, probably the most prestigious of the series, alongside Monte-Carlo. In those early days of the WRC the endurance character prevailed in most events and rallys requiring a flat out pace, like Sweden and Finland, were somehow an exception; like at the Safari, their specific nature also granted local drivers huge success.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
They're quite famous with their Cognac as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
You should also try our wines; they're excellent. Btw, I'll drink anything, as long as Portugal wins. Força Portugal!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Watson
Yup, but rallying was a different sport back then. In fact the 1970 London - Mexico win is probably what Mikkola was/is best known from, not his numerous Finland and RAC victories, although that wasn't even a WRC event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
EDIT: Also the fact that championship points were awarded only to manufacturers, not drivers, emphasized the endurance factor. That quickly changed in the 80's with also the cars becoming faster.
I think ONE duppla pukki is enough tonight (8,5% Finnish quality beer, for those who doesn´t know...). Very warm weather here in Sweden today. Well, 23 degrees...
BTW, I think Spain wins.
(Excuse us N.O.T. - but this is the bar...)
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Originally Posted by Rallyper
Enjoy everyone!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
I am not really into football, but just noticed that Spain and Portugal are in Group B ;)
I´ll get you one if we meet in Jyväskylä... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
O Krisse Sohlberg σοκαρισμένος.
Μόλις τώρα ·
Surullinen ilta Suomen rallille. Syvä osanottoni menehtyneen katsojan läheisille ja ystäville. Vaikka asiat tekee kuinka hyvin, niin valitettavasti silti voi sattua tragedia. Voimia kuskille ja kartturille. Ja pliis lehdet älkää revitelkö. RIP
any further details????
My understanding of Finnish is very rusty, but based on what I saw in the media, a car went off the road (rolled) and hit a female spectator who died by the hit on the location. No one else was involved. Police couldn't say if the spectator was in a dangerous location or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by nafpaktos
Hopefully Finns can either confirm or correct me.
Not much details yet but what have I heard is that there were spectators on outside of the corner and the female who got hit died instantly. Sad day in finnish rallying :(
Very sad indeed. I don’t know more of the incident. Condolences.
I heard someone say Group B - may I join the conversation now it has moved off football.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickRally
http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/201..._137257126.htmQuote:
Originally Posted by Franky
That's such a nice conversation.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan
Really sorry to bring up circuit racing again, but I just tuned in to Le Mans and the first voice I hear commentating is Karun Chandhok. OK, I could see that. Then Karun stops talking and whose unmistakable voice do I hear? Why none other than Julian Porter.
What's that fella doing over there? Making a living or something?
Doing something in the long, long rally pause.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonnybobiche
Julian has been doing it for some years now, Aleks Zawada stepping in on ERC radio
He's been doing the official WEC Le Mans coverage for a few years - and why not? And there is no need to apologise for mentioning Le Mans....It's THE big one of the whole year.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonnybobiche
Kimi has done fastest SS-time and his best result is 6th. I´m pretty sure that none of Rally World Champions will ever drive fastest lap time and 6th place from Grand Prix. That is something you should know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lousada
Kubica was very fast in a WRC car on tarmac too, but not very consistent.
Quite a difference between WRC and F1 though really - WRC drivers are chasing seconds or tenths of seconds on real roads in all sorts of constantly changing conditions, F1 drivers are chasing hundredths of seconds around the same few smoothly surfaced corners over and over again in much more controlled circumstances.
Impossible to compare WRC and F1.
I'd like to see a few WRC drivers try another discipline; get them out of their comfort zone. One thing that Loeb can be praised for is not just sticking to rallying. Too few drivers try other disciplines.
Kimi Raikkonen did one fastest time in his whole career, the final SSS in Rally Deutschland. This was in the days that were only 4 works cars for Ford and Citroën and Raikkonen still did not finish best of the rest even once. To compare with another rally-superstar: Martin Prokop has 3 stagewins and a best result of 4th.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Sebastien Loeb finished second in Le Mans in a car that has similar performance to an F1 car. Only two current F1 drivers did better at Le Mans. Had he driven F1 in his prime Loeb would not have embarrased himself.
This is the same as guessing how good a swimmer would be at tennis... Completely useless!
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Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Why? What whim would it satisfy? How do you know they haven't? How you going to force them>
Personally I have never been interested in watching or doing anything on asphalt..Ever..
I did enduros, then years of moto-cross all over the world....then enduros again....then gravel rally..
As far as i can tell I would not like the participants of most asphalt stuff, and definitely not like the fans.
Why would I want to something?
Likewise why would "the Dubya Arsey guys"?
Why? Worthless knowing.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
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Sorry for asking, is it true that beer in finland cost about 2.5 eur for a can? Carlsberg or heineken... just checked customs rules, says over 100 litres are allowed to bring in :)
Depends on a beer, skip Carslberg and Heineken and go with a 24 pack of Karhu which costs around 26euros :) Just stay away from Karjala, Koff and Lapin Kulta and you're sweet!Quote:
Originally Posted by drive