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12th March 2013, 15:41
rjbetty

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Originally Posted by steveaki13

Or you were just watcing it like us. ;)

Seriously though that is great recall, Schumacher also had all the barge boards falling off his car.

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Noooo I don't have Sky. :D
If you think that's good, I can recall further back in even more detail. The above post was entirely from memory, though Alonso and Trulli may have started 12th and 10th rather than the other way round? I also get mixed up with qualifying 1 where Alonso and Trulli were 9th and 10th, both making mistakes at turn 1. I remember quali 1 so clearly cos I was so excited watching it at the time. :D

I really can be a nerd sometimes. :)
12th March 2013, 18:42
Dave B

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Originally Posted by henners88

I don't think that's a particularly bad thing Mark. Highlights for that race will cut out a lot of the dead laps and with Monaco there's usually plenty. Monaco is usually a race which I fast forward through a little when watching delayed anyway.

I agree, actually, even though it's sacrilegious to say it. Monaco is an awful racing circuit kept alive only because of history and vanity. If Tilke drew up a similar track in a desert somewhere, he'd be carted off to a rubber room and not allowed to use adult cutlery until he'd calmed down a bit.
12th March 2013, 18:43
Dave B

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Originally Posted by rjbetty

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Noooo I don't have Sky. :D
If you think that's good, I can recall further back in even more detail. The above post was entirely from memory, though Alonso and Trulli may have started 12th and 10th rather than the other way round? I also get mixed up with qualifying 1 where Alonso and Trulli were 9th and 10th, both making mistakes at turn 1. I remember quali 1 so clearly cos I was so excited watching it at the time. :D

I really can be a nerd sometimes. :)

You are Karun Chandhok and I claim my five pounds. :p
12th March 2013, 20:09
rjbetty

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Originally Posted by Dave B

I agree, actually, even though it's sacrilegious to say it. Monaco is an awful racing circuit kept alive only because of history and vanity. If Tilke drew up a similar track in a desert somewhere, he'd be carted off to a rubber room and not allowed to use adult cutlery until he'd calmed down a bit.

In recent years I can understand why people might feel like this. I've fallen out of love with the circuit to a significant degree since the 2003 changes. This is very sad because actually, the Monte Carlo circuit is the reason I got into F1 in the first place in 1997.

I actually don't much enjoy driving it on F1 2011 because now it's all about aiming for the kerbs (some even seem painted), like driving in a car park. The wall has been taken out of St Devote - This allowed Vettel to cut past a load of cars at the start of the 2012 race. If the wall had been there, either Seb would have had to retire or he would have had to queue up properly along with everyone else. As it turned out, this corner cut surely allowed Sebastian to secure a result that in retrospect won him last year's title...
12th March 2013, 20:19
rjbetty

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Originally Posted by Dave B

You are Karun Chandhok and I claim my five pounds. :p

Haha I've actually never got to hear the famous Chandhok. So is he a walking encyclopedia?

Ok I want to try a challenge for everyone. If one of you say a year for any race in Melbourne, between 1996-2012. I'll see if I can remember the full grid and race result, without Google or anything else, just from memory!

(This is the second driver to my knowledge I have been accused of being, following Matthew Wilson. Wonder how many more I can get. :p )

EDIT: Any year except 2008 and 2009 cos I didn't watch F1 at that time.
12th March 2013, 22:11
IceWizard

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Originally Posted by henners88

I don't think that's a particularly bad thing Mark. Highlights for that race will cut out a lot of the dead laps and with Monaco there's usually plenty. Monaco is usually a race which I fast forward through a little when watching delayed anyway.

Agreed, with virtually no overtaking the best thing about Monaco is the odd crash for which the highlights will be fine. Not having Monaco live means that the likes of Montreal, Spa, Monza and Suzuka are all live on BBC, the four best tracks on the calendar for me.
13th March 2013, 07:34
steveaki13

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Originally Posted by rjbetty

Haha I've actually never got to hear the famous Chandhok. So is he a walking encyclopedia?

Ok I want to try a challenge for everyone. If one of you say a year for any race in Melbourne, between 1996-2012. I'll see if I can remember the full grid and race result, without Google or anything else, just from memory!

(This is the second driver to my knowledge I have been accused of being, following Matthew Wilson. Wonder how many more I can get. :p )

EDIT: Any year except 2008 and 2009 cos I didn't watch F1 at that time.

Australia 2002
13th March 2013, 08:20
henners88

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Originally Posted by IceWizard

Agreed, with virtually no overtaking the best thing about Monaco is the odd crash for which the highlights will be fine. Not having Monaco live means that the likes of Montreal, Spa, Monza and Suzuka are all live on BBC, the four best tracks on the calendar for me.

Indeed, and if you factor in that there is a fair chance that race will have a safety car period, you've got got the best part of the race in highlight form. Monaco seems to be perceived as the jewel in the calendar but that may be because it pulls in extra casual viewers who might not tune in at any other time. The glitz and glamour attract. The TV companies can fight all they like about Monaco, but I'd be more than happy to keep Monaco as highlights for the coming years and have a much better race live instead. Its nice having Canada back this year IMO.

For some reason I had it in my head that the Australian GP was next weekend rather than this one coming! As it turns out we have no plans this weekend and it looks like I'll be able to watch it during the day. I could actually watch it on Sky this weekend due to where I am staying, but then again its a new line up on the Beeb and I'm quite excited to see how they adapt without Jake. I won't want to watch the race twice and I'm not exactly endeared to Sky, so its an easy choice.
13th March 2013, 09:23
SGWilko

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Originally Posted by Dave B

not allowed to use adult cutlery until he'd calmed down a bit.

Why does Rhuprect have a cork on his fork?
13th March 2013, 14:33
henners88

I agree with the principle of what Martin is saying here and it should have been done as soon as social media became mainstream IMO. Its not the solution to the bigger problem though. What he's sort of saying here is the sport has suffered because of the move to pay TV with regards to viewing figures, but instead of addressing this by making it more affordable to FTA broadcasters, they should just focus on delivering snippets through the likes of youtube and social networks. That may be more profitable for them in the short term, but its not addressing the problem in the same way. Suggesting TV shouldn't be the sole issue is just lazy. You're not going to get more exposure from people if they are unable to watch the races, regardless of how many adverts and online video's they may see.

pitpass - F1 must adapt warns Whitmarsh

F1 has created this problem, and now they are puzzled as to how to solve it. Quite laughable really.

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