Gary, you must think Indy Car fans are a real big bunch of idiots!
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Gary, you must think Indy Car fans are a real big bunch of idiots!
So competitive racing isn't a reason to watch motorsport? With cars that require driver input to make them go faster than their competitors?Quote:
Originally Posted by SarahFan
I used to watch Indycars back in the days of Moore, Montoya etc. sure the cars were, ultimately, fast but they also required a hell of a lot of skill to control them. A lot of that seems to have been lost, so it needs a re-boot. If that means slightly slower (in absolute terms) cars but ones that will sort out the good drivers from the bad it could create a buzz around the series.
Buzz = marketability. That means sponsors find it attractive.
Your average punter that we're talking about here (ie the ones that don't currently tune in) won't have a clue, visually if the car is doing 190 or 215.
Mind you all of this assumes a new car will change anything when in reality, the PR, promotion and running of the entire thing needs an overhaul.
Competitive racing would be a reason to CONTINUE watching ....
I've been very very clear about this
Over and over
Did you ride the short bus? Are you reading what you are writing? That makes absolutely no sense. Could be one of the most moronic posts I have read in a real long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
Yah, lets slow the cars down to a snails pace! Brilliant!!! What do you think will happen when you dial back the capabilities of the car? You end up with cars that will all be going the identical speed. We need disparity right now more then ever and you are proposing the exact opposite. Slowing the cars down will give you the entire opposite affect of what it is you desire which is so called competitive racing.
Hardly! I think they want competitive racing and not the gimmick of a "new track record" that is seen by only a mall percentage of the fans that go to the race or view on TV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loneranger
Gary
Really classy repsonse, caling people and their replies moronic. Removing downforce and adding horsepower thereby forcing the drivers to have to lift would have two effects. First it would create disparity and second it would slow down the lap times. Sure if the ONLY thing being proposed was to slow the car down you would be correct. But that is NOT what is being proposed at all. What is being proposed are changes to bring about some much needed disparity that have a side effcet of also slowing down lap times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loneranger
Gary
And a "new lap record" would be a reason to tune in on Saturday before the race? Really? Have you ever watched qualifying. It is BORING on TV, akin to watching paint dry. Sorry I just don't believe that you are going to get new fans by having them watch qualifying.Quote:
Originally Posted by SarahFan
Gary
Sorry, I didn't realize this was a black tie affair. Suck it up buttercup! I am evil homer can fight his own battles, he doesn't need any broke back help.Quote:
Originally Posted by garyshell
You aren't going to have any sort of disparity Gary by purposefully slowing the car down. For the most part these guys are all professional drivers, they get the maximum out of the car. You will end up with 20 cars running identical times. It all ready happens! Slow them down even more and you will only exasperate the problem.
Lost on you is the fact that it isn't about proclaiming a "new track record" it is about representing the pinnacle of the sport, and speed is one of the few measuring sticks motorsports has in doing do.
What's the opposite of Purple?
But there is not much room left for " new lap record". Adding extra horsepower may launch lap speed in Indy above 240mph, but this will last only for a few years. And what next, 245 mph, than 250mph, all this in a period of 10-15 years? :confused: The safety limits of speed (in Indy) even with SAFER barriers are somewhat empirically established - no more than 230mph at corners.
But well, lets do some pure mathematics. If we assume cornering speed to be around 225mph (and we may control this as a spec-chassis series with of course spec-aerodynamics) as it is now, we need top speed to be about 250mph in order to achieve average 240mph which turns to be "new lap record". Such top speed in such a wide and smooth road as IMS i think is purely acceptable, even 260mph is acceptable (which by the way should increase average to about 245mph). I see the problem with mistakes (or even technical failures) while breaking/lowering the speed entering the corner.