Renault get a 2 year suspended ban

I also find it hard to believe that Alonso had NO knowledge of the plan to try to help him win the race.

there would have been a discussion along the lines of "we'll pit eary in case there's a yellow", (as it was street circuit). Fernando would have been told that at least, some times you don't have to discuss details when your the number one driver. The team are gonna help you. I' sure Fernando new something, but there's the term plausible deniability. Presidents and prime ministers use it.

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Originally Posted by henners88

He knew I'm sure, but that isn't the issue here. Piquet getting paid damages by a team who published incorrect facts about how he cheated is the issue.

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The problem is that your view of the facts is skewed, the team cheated, not Piquet.

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Originally Posted by henners88

The team ordered Piquet to crash. He crashed. They cheated. He cheated. Simple as that.

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Piquet crashed because he was told to. He was told to do so to help the team. He felt that if he didn't do it, he'd lose his job....

I ask you, if your boss told/asked you to be dishonest, and if you didn't you'd lose your job would you do it - or tell him to shove it up his ar5e........sideways.

Now, add in that the piquets are not exactly strapped for cash............

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The team ordered Piquet to crash. He crashed. They cheated. He cheated. Simple as that.

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Still skewed, simple as that.

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The team ordered Piquet to crash. He crashed. They cheated. He cheated. Simple as that.

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no no... the Big Bad Boo man ordered the team to order Piquet to crash.
boohoo :dozey:

team cheats and does something illegal, like a little nitro in the fuel.
Driver goes down with the team as he was the benefitee of the cheator

team cheats to have driver win race by crash out or to move over, red rover, , no penalty on the benefitee

If you are lying or cheating to get one place or a vin upp, thoose things will hunt you down for ever.

But in my book support a crash out is a bit worse than lying if that comfort you Henner. Risk other peoples life deservs hard punishment.

Originally Posted by skc http://www.motorsportforums.com/foru...s/viewpost.gif
Like it or not, the facts are that Piquet cheated as well as being bloody slow and although there is no evidence Alonso was involved you do wonder.

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Edited for accuracy :D

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Can you not edit my words in a quote attributed to me please. It's very disrespectfull :(

My words are:

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Like it or not, the facts are that Piquet cheated as well and there is no evidence Alonso was involved other than circumstantial.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Sweet denial, I wish I could try this feeling but I just can't do it.

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There is circumstantial evidence and rumour. That in no way proves he was involved but just that After the event, with Hindsight, it looks logical that the Renault strategy was designed to favour Alonso.

Lewis lied to the Stewards, Alonso blackmailed Ron, Piquet crashed on purpose in a plan to give Alonso the win. These are facts that are proven but apart from suggestion, there is no proof that Alonso had any involvement.

That might be denial in your eyes but in mine it's the facts that are available at this time.