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Momentum isn't the issue. Track position is. If Lewis had gone through the corner there is no way he would have been that close to Kimi. Lewis' car may have been hooked up in those conditions but it wasn't that hooked up.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
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Originally Posted by ioan
well ya that's what I think...And I saw Kimi accelerating better out of the chicane than Lewis did....Passing him on the straight...they not even had to check data for that..if they already did !
Really? I thought Hamilton received a penalty because he "cut the chicane and gained an advantage" (link). Why would that help? Because of the shortcut and better momentum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Had he not slowed and given back the position then he would have gained an advantage.
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Originally Posted by Daniel
Very good point there!!
Yet again you seem to be on a completely different page.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonieke
You shouldn't be comaring Lewis with Kimi because they drove a different line and Lewis cut the corner. You should compare where Lewis ended up compared to where Lewis should have been had he braked and taken the bad line through the corner rather than what he did which gave im good momentum and therefore good track position.
who knows what would have happend if and when...Maybe Lewis would even came out better getting back behind Kimi instead of cutting the corner...seeing his car had a way better grip than Kimi's on a wetter track..But we will never know...Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
And I keep repeating myself..what's the decission of the stewards based on ? just these what and if's ?
Thing is slightly better grip doesn't compensate for being on the totally wrong line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonieke
Perhaps Lewis would have done that but there is no evidence to say so.
Thing is he didn't do it and he went of the track and when you go off the track you should be disadvantaged and not gain from it as Lewis did.
2009 Formula One Sporting Regulations, section 16.3, 16.4:Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
"16.3 The stewards may impose any one of three penalties on any driver involved in an Incident:
a) A drive-through penalty. The driver must enter the pit lane and re-join the race without stopping ;
b) A ten second time penalty. The driver must enter the pit lane, stop at his pit for at least ten seconds and then re-join the race.
c) a drop of ten grid positions at the driver’s next Event.
However, should either of the penalties under a) and b) above be imposed during the last five laps, or after the end of a race, Article 16.4b) below will not apply and 25 seconds will be added to the elapsed race time of the driver concerned.
16.4 Should the stewards decide to impose either of the penalties under Article 16.3a) or b), the following procedure will be followed:
a) The stewards will give written notification of the penalty which has been imposed to the competitor concerned and will ensure that this information is also displayed on the timing monitors.
b) From the time the stewards’ decision is notified on the timing monitors the relevant driver may cover no more than three complete laps before entering the pit lane and, in the case of a penalty under Article 16.3b), proceeding to his garage where he shall remain for the period of the time penalty. ..."
From what Schmenke has shown the penalty applied is perfectly correct and suitable. I'm sure the stewards will show that Lewis gained and then there can be no more aguing :)
Big news. I've just watched the final few laps......Nick Heidfeld should win the Belgian GP. As lewis and Massa go on to the final lap, Massa obviously cuts the chicane (You can tell this from the line he takes in the background out of the final chicane!!) This means he got an advantage by cutting the chicane instead of hitting the wall even if it was a mistake. I mean if he had hit the wall or spun he could have been out so thats gaining an advantage is it not???