Max Mosley opens a can of worms.

Hmmm, if Bernie wants nothing to do with Max, would that mean he can become part of a Formula 1 that is split from the FIA like they did once in 1982?

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Originally Posted by F1boat

If you read my whole post, I don't say that the ADAC believe in the Nazi political philospohy, which would be a lie and disgraceful, but thet ADAC used questionable methods who were used by the Nazi party; which makes hypocritical their interference with Max's private life.

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I don't see any how they relate. The Nazi Party used their tactics to force another vote. ADAC are pulling out, not for another vote, but because they don't want to be seen endorsing you know who.

I reckon you are out of line drawing that comparison in the first place.

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Originally Posted by Monaro Doorslammer

Hmmm, if Bernie wants nothing to do with Max, would that mean he can become part of a Formula 1 that is split from the FIA like they did once in 1982?

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Not sure about that, a read into the Concorde agreement would be useful.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Not sure about that, a read into the Concorde agreement would be useful.

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Tell that to the manufacturers who don't want Max. And Bernie.

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Originally Posted by Monaro Doorslammer

I don't see any how they relate. The Nazi Party used their tactics to force another vote. ADAC are pulling out, not for another vote, but because they don't want to be seen endorsing you know who.

I reckon you are out of line drawing that comparison in the first place.

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Both come as a sign of enormous disrespect to the vote which was made.

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Originally Posted by F1boat

Both come as a sign of enormous disrespect to the vote which was made.

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That depends on how fair a vote it was. By the sounds of things, much smaller automobile clubs had the same 'one vote, one value' as much larger clubs.

No, something is definitely not right. Everyone should know better than to assume all is well and not bribing anyone. It's never that simple higher up.

I think that the system one club, one vote is much better than fiew enormous communities creating an oligarchy.
BTW, BMW now prefers to focus on racing:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67962

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Originally Posted by F1boat

Both come as a sign of enormous disrespect to the vote which was made.

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As I pointed it out earlier, because of the "nazi" connotations invoked by a certain so called "newspaper" the Germans had to vote against Max and than leave if he stayed. They are still paying the price for the WWII.

Others, although not happy with the outcome, didn't rush into such decisions.
The ADAC will be back in no time once Mosley retires, and their departure will have no influence on the German motorsport, that will be taken care of.

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Originally Posted by F1boat

I think that the system one club, one vote is much better than fiew enormous communities creating an oligarchy.
BTW, BMW now prefers to focus on racing:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/67962

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Theissen always looked like a very serious and decent person, so this is no surprise for me.

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Originally Posted by ioan

As I pointed it out earlier, because of the "nazi" connotations invoked by a certain so called "newspaper" the Germans had to vote against Max and than leave if he stayed. They are still paying the price for the WWII.

Others, although not happy with the outcome, didn't rush into such decisions.
The ADAC will be back in no time once Mosley retires, and their departure will have no influence on the German motorsport, that will be taken care of.

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That is as maybe, but a lot of people are now thoroughly fed up with his "back door" tactics to elevate himself higher up the chain. One positive of that though is the increased chance of a challenge from another party for presidency of the FIA next election time.