Rally Discussion and Bar Talk Thread

At least VW have seen sense...

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/ele...ctric-car-2027

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Originally Posted by WRCStan

Europeans need to stop using the term SUV like it means anything other than being too fat/old/lazy/uncomfortable to crouch down into a car. Nothing wrong with being that, it's consumer's choice. But half the time they're neither sporty or utilitarian. Isn't there a better word?

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Yeah, Sh1t Useless Vehicle........

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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC

At least VW have seen sense...

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/ele...ctric-car-2027

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And thats the way EVs are going to have to go to get take up especially in the UK unless the business model moves totally away from purchasing a car outright to leasing/personal contract hire. Not that many can afford north of £35k for a half decent leccy car.

good. give me an electric wrc class with that new vw, the r5 3e, the honda E and the fiat 500 electric. id enjoy that class if they are 380hp 4wd and race just on sunday's stages
hehehe (but please dont change a thing in ERC ffs)

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Originally Posted by Sal yet again

And thats the way EVs are going to have to go to get take up especially in the UK unless the business model moves totally away from purchasing a car outright to leasing/personal contract hire. Not that many can afford north of £35k for a half decent leccy car.

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If you can't afford a half decent electric car, you can't afford to facilitate charging a cheap one at home. Unless, perfect car for young twenty-somethings living with Mum and Dad in their new build off a roundabout on the bypass miles away from anything. These can at least facilitate charging at home. Folk in terraces, flats and housing schemes of northern towns cannot.

Might flog a few, not saying it's not worth doing, they've got to do it for now with these blinkered governments until the u-turns come. I wouldn't say price alone is affecting take up.

Also, can we just agree now that these won't be £17k in 2027?

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Originally Posted by AndyRAC

Yeah, Sh1t Useless Vehicle........

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I'm under the impression the correct term was Stupid Usless Vehicle. I kept wondering why the manufacturers so openly told the consumer that they'd be paying extra for such a shitty product.

How many events does Ogier have left with Toyota for the rest of the season?

Ford are sharing EV platforms with VW, so Ford likely has a small ev on the way too. If the losses in the US don't sink them.

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Originally Posted by Humber

Ford are sharing EV platforms with VW, so Ford likely has a small ev on the way too. If the losses in the US don't sink them.

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i think they built a ford explorer in europe on the vw platform already? but its a suv/crossover.

this is so rad. i always think "ahh i should watch this championship" but i have no money right now to pay for their broadcast
https://youtu.be/H9vzeZBLv5c?feature=shared

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Originally Posted by becher

I'm under the impression the correct term was Stupid Usless Vehicle. I kept wondering why the manufacturers so openly told the consumer that they'd be paying extra for such a shitty product.

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Manus are creating the 'demand' for SUVs by pandering to the human instinct that bigger is better.

(If you take two cars to a tribe that's never seen a car, they will choose the biggest of the two.)

It's a crazy situation - manufacturers should be doing everything to educate people that lighter and smaller cars are better for economy and for the planet.