Citroen really, really needed this.
Budar is a great leader, but a win is irreplaceable.
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Citroen really, really needed this.
Budar is a great leader, but a win is irreplaceable.
The only thing disappointing about this season is that the driver who deserved the championship the most now has only a mathematical chance of the title.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I think that any time penalty taken on last day results in you loosing PS points.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Have to agree with you there. We all know he should really have won since he has consistently been the quickest.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
Ogier just said they need every point so definitely arent taking the penalty
No, only if you do it to affect running order of the PS.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Ogier's not wrong. Neuville has to score the points now, the pressure is on him.
so Ott need a full points at Aus
Ogier not higher than 7th with 0 PS points
Neuville not higher than 5th with 0 PS points
to make Ott a champion.
Neuville has consistently been quickest in 2017.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Agree..Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
and exectly this behavior from Mr Neuville is it why i hope he will NOT be Champion, not this year, not next year, NEVER!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Great win by Loeb, he's just that amazing. Great rally by Ogier, now he leads and will have to sweep in Australia. I think to get the championship Neuville will need a perfect rally in Australia.
Looking at the PS, if Sordo would get a 10 seconds time penalty now, would it affect the PS times and drop him behind Neuville, so making Neuville gain 1 point? Just theoretical question, I don't think they'd do it.
So? Tanak was consistently quickest this year. Neuville made the same mistake as last year of not capitalizing on Ogier's misfortune and now he's got himself into this situation he didn't have to get into.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
He relaxed and now he's paying the price.
If you win a championship you deserve it. Nuff said
Considering how unlucky has Ott been last two rallies, still not too bad for him .. by far the fastest driver in the worldQuote:
Originally Posted by KKS
Sordo would have to retire or be disqualified to drop his points now, 10s time penalty would be added to his overall time, not stage time.Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
I don't think Hyundai wants to give up on those points he brings for the manu champ.
If you mean now, after the stage, then the answer is no. But had he jump started or done anything else worth a time penalty during the stage, then yes as per Art 13.3.4.Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
What a rally, What a living Legend, 6 years after his last visit here,only doing 3 events this year...hats off, congrats to Loeb & Elena, and a very well deserved win for Citroen who really needed this after a year of drought....Shame Breen couldn't get it right this time, hopefully better luck next time in Australia. Imho, Ogier will take the title down under, he has the psychological advantage knowing he's done it 5 times before and won Australia 4 times before being 1st on the road, but just as Neuviile said last time out in GB, it won't be over until they cross the finish line in Coffs Harbour.
Actually saw the rock now on WRC+ and it was there before Evans passed through...Evans avoided it nicely.
wow... history was made today by the greatest motorsport driver of all times and ages... wow.
Lets see if potato dog has what it takes in Oz.
Loeb had also his chief mechanic from his championship years.Is the guy who takes in his hug Budar at video.
https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing/st...24289527164930
Probably Ogier will take it, and I bet he's happy to see that C3's potential ahead of next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
And now what about it : https://bit.ly/2O9sGnr
Citroen and Loeb has always done things only to hurt Ogier. If we see one more time the same scenario here in Spain, I'm starting an open petition for Seb Ogier not to go to Citroen Racing next year.
This is so wrong that I have to quote it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ds3
Its normal when you have to choose between a champion and a tv presenters lap dog...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ds3
Neuville needs 2nd or a win in Oz and he wins the championship no matter what... if he finishes lower then Ogier controls the fate.
What an instant classic this was. And on so many levels.
i would pay money to have that useless dog slowson back to hear what he has to say... lol
of course we had some other autistic boys over the years saying crap about THE GREATEST DRIVER OF ALL TIMES but probably they overdose on anti depressants right now...
Neuville won't take the title he's far too fragile mentality wise. Only a mechanical failure from ogier will secure it
not only wrong, its also one of the funniest things i have ever read here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Loeb won because citroen applied team orders to his team matesQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Loeb won because he had tailored for him cars
Loeb hadnt got good competition at his era.
Loeb won because he was at the team with the biggest budget.
Finally KKK has won with most different manufactures.
Tanak this year is in many ways similar to Neuville last year. Fastest but also trying just a bit too much resulting in small things that in the end cost a lot of points.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
This year Neuville "relaxed" in a good way and is not making unnecessary mistakes, the only ones are GB and Finland. Sometimes the pace just isn't there from the car (Corsica, GER, FIN). He is on completely different level mentality-wise than last year. Ogier has POR, GER, TUR mistakes.
Which is why I think they have about same chance going to AUS (due to start position).
What I don't like is the double-standards in relation to Tanak. Last year everyone agreed it was Neuville's own fault he didn't win the title.
This year Tanak is always "unlucky". Sure sometimes he is, but looking at the bigger picture over multiple rallies it's not without reason.
If you try to look at it without fan- or anti-fan glasses there is little difference between Neuville in 2017 and Tanak in 2018. Just that one is more popular among fans than the other. I don't really have a preference as a fan, but as usual I feel the need to balance the one-way comments.
its not a double standard, its the difference
has Tänak made any stupid driving errors this year like Neuville did last year ?
NO...that is the biggest difference.
Probably yes, probably not .......Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
It is double standard and you are certainly not qualified to tell the differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Tanak this year mistakes:
Sweden
Sardinia
Borderline:
GB (lower setup than anyone else, 42s lead)
Spain (33s lead and big cut)
lol. Who are you to say who is qualified or not? What mistake in Sardinia?
Loeb was and is a fantastic driver, not only in rally, but also in racing.
if he needs another challenge, the logical step be endurance racing. But would be cool to see him in formula 2, to se if he mastered single seaters as well.
But I think he feels he still has something to prove in Rally Cross. But driving rally cross, he can not use the tactician Loeb, the starts are too important.
Winning in WRC from 2002 till 2018 is extreem. And this year in a car that no-one seems to master has to be embarrasing to the drivers in Citroen!
I would like tanak to win it... it does not matter for me if Ogier or Neuville win it... i dislike them the same for different reasons...
plus this years championship is garbage when a semi retired white hair old dude returns in a shit car that has not won the whole year and ridicules you like some dog waiting on death row in some chinese restaurant...
Toyota 331
Hyundai 319
Ford 305
Should be the first time in ages 3 manufacturers have a title chance at the final event.