New Citroen C3 official launch today.. we'll see exactly what the 2017 WRC car is based on.
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New Citroen C3 official launch today.. we'll see exactly what the 2017 WRC car is based on.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...cactus-styling and here it is:)
typical french perversion
Whoever designed those front lights should be shot in the early morning mist...
And why oh why the silly door cushions?
Bring back the designer of the DS cars...
Sweet bleedin Jayzuz.....I think I am going to go spew..Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
It looks like a childs toy
America's infantilization of the world is spreading..Oh dear.
Looks like smaller cactus. Meh.
Citroën 2017 team will have just 2 drivers full time. Citroën is expected to stay in WRC for at least 3 more years...
via @ericdobro Twitter
so, no such a rule that teams will be with 3 cars then?
Don't know about the rule, have it really been mentioned anywhere? It would be great of course. This season last four rallies the 25 manu points for victory has gone to the number 2 teams of VW and Hyundai which is ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
And if the rumour says 2 drivers full time, that doesn't mean there can't be 3 cars full time. And anyway if I remember correctly, for example Subaru used most of the time only two cars in 2002-2003.
More than one will have caught off guard Yves Matton statements in an interview with the French half AUTOhebdo, which ensures that Citroen will have only two official units next season. The first is for Kris Meeke, who is under contract until 2018, while the second is being shuffled between different names, including the two young pilots of the signing of the two chevrons that competed last weekend in Poland Stéphane Lefebvre and Craig Breen.
The Belgian has made it clear that there will be rotations in the second seat for the 2017 season and therefore the pilot elected accompany Kris Meeke driving the second Citroen C3 WRC during the calendar full. A list that has long been rumored that could also be Thierry Neuville and Dani Sordo.
I am looking for a second driver for 2017. I have no obligation to impose or Stéphane Craig, the only instruction is to do the best possible given their current level and experience. They have to show what they are capable. It will be a unique second pilot, who I will choose between candidates who can potentially come into my plans. Today I have not decided, however, some of them have already been discarded. In July plans for the next three years will be defined, then I begin to negotiate with the drivers that give the profile.
And the truth is that at no time Citroen said it was to have three cars, which themselves have brands like Toyota or Hyundai (Volkswagen also expected to hold). Matton remarks that the only option for Citroën had a third unit would be for the training of young pilots, something that is not necessary today because the WRC lacks them.
We maintain commitment of two cars. I am against an agreement requiring the use of three cars and invest more money in pilots. The only interest of a third car would be the training of young people. But one of the biggest drawbacks of the WRC is to have more seats than high-level drivers. First you have to solve this problem. On development, we will soon have a second model to advance the evolution in asphalt. There is no assessment point between the new and current WRC, but the car rolled into the same sections to compare specific points such as easy to drive. Bengué is unavailable due to injury, but is expected back in the car at the end of the month. We have remade the simulator and we are ready to extend our contract with the FIA another year in the JWRC.
http://www.diariomotor.com/competici...emporada-2017/
From that translation is he saying there will be a full-time second driver or that they will rotate the second seat? It's not clear.
Sounds to me like there will be a second full-time driver, he just hasn't decided who it will be yet... and Breen & Lefebvre are not the only choices.
That is exactly what is reported - so a fixed 2 driver team for 2017. Are we taking it for granted that KM is no.1?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I know it's only a literal translation but that is hilarious - we don't need young'ens because there aren't any :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
'Citroen will have only two official units next season. The first is for Kris Meeke, who is under contract until 2018..'Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
Surely Meeke is the no.1.. he is doing most of the testing of the C3 plus who else could they bring in ?
My interview to our friend Ole-Martin Lundefaret for an italian magazine.
http://www.rally.it/2016/07/ole-mart...enatore-paddon
Like the article says - rumoured guys are Neuville and Sordo - both of which have I think indicated they would like to stay at Hyundai. Not a huge amount of choice for Citroen to be honest? Same issue Tommi has.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Disappointing to see they will only have two cars given they have refocused on WRC. But if they have a longer-term commitment then that extra car could come in. Maybe the young driver negativity is a reference to them losing both Ogier and Neuville having helped to develop them within PSA?
I guess Citroen have no intention of wasting time and want to hit the ground running in 2017 with a complete driver package. If I was Breen / Lefebvre I wouldnt be too confident of getting the drive...
I wonder what the score is with Tanak & M-Sport for next year ?
Good work, wish the mainstream UK magazines had more of this content.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Pretty crazy to read in Motorsport News today that the WRC might be moving to a control tyre.
It's under discussion and the decision is to be made by WRC Promoter in a month. This is despite neither Dmack or Michelin asking for it. Not even Capito supports it.
After the great Dmack-related storylines last weekend it's yet more lunacy from the people in charge.
Also in MN - Teemu Suninen being heavily linked to Citroen next year.
Quotes from Timo Jouhki: With the development and progression he has been doing, he is ready for the World Rally Car next year and I'm pretty sure I can get him in. Citroen is the preferred option. Next one is either Hyundai or Tommi, and M-Sport is the last one."
Pretty crazy that Jouhki would openly rank the teams like that in public. Signs he is very confident I think. Bad news for Lefebvre/Breen when coupled with the news they'll just have two cars.
I like how he calls Toyota just 'Tommi.'
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...-tyres-in-2017, I thought you were jokin' yesterday but wow nope they are serious...
Are you a journalist ? please say no...Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
This is such a joke. Even at Wrc or F1 control tyre is ridicilous they need to let tyre companies but money and research on the series to make them better. If there is a such a control tyre today Dmack will not be improve this much.
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I am not. I write for them because they are very nice friends and I love rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I work in the digital/content/marketing industry though, so I'm used to content publishing somehow..
Why you asked? Just for trolling?
because i do not like journalists.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
i am always trolling. Its what a dear leader must do in order to preserve balance in the universe.
Has anyone else heard about PH Sport running two DS3s next year in addition to the factory?
It's just kind of slotted in this article like it's common knowledge - http://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/c...medium=twitter
Its says 2 DS3s so probably R5 cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Running DS3s next year will be pretty hopeless though.
I'd guess more likely the old spec WRC cars. But we still need to wait for the FIA/WRC Promoter to decide what they are doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I'd be in favour of this move to be honest. Having guys like Lefebvre, Breen, Tidemand maybe all battling in older cars, gaining experience until the new machinery is more readily available.
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They say there are "pros and cons", what would be the "pros" of control tyres?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Like the article says, some tyre maker ploughing significant money into the series/promotion etc. But honestly with Dmack we've already got the equivalent of the Pirelli Star Driver programme with a better ladder to the top. And Dmack don't even want a control tyre. To force them out of the sport would be insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
More money to the FIA...Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
Citroen targetting Neuville for 2017 then... so a seat could be available at Hyundai for Abbring possibly ?
http://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/c...uville-796283/
Two young Japanese drivers supported by Toyota and being trained by the team of four-time World Rally Champion Tommi Mäkinen will compete on the next round of the FIA European Rally Championship.
Takamoto Katsuta (aged 23) and Hiroki Arai (22) are being nurtured under the Toyota Gazoo Racing Challenge Program with Tommi Mäkinen Racing, which will operate Toyota’s World Rally Championship team when it returns to the top level of the sport in 2017.
The pair recently made a step up in their development by moving from R4-specification Subaru Impreza WRX STIs to Ford Fiesta R5s in the Finnish championship, and for their second starts in the cars they will make ERC debuts on auto24 Rally Estonia on 15-17 July.
The high-speed gravel rally will be seen as ideal preparation for the famous Rally Finland, which follows two weeks later.
When the decision was made earlier this year to promote the pair to the R5 category, Mäkinen said: “I’m happy to report that Katsuta and Arai have progressed markedly compared to when they started the program. They still need more experience as rally drivers, but in coaching them over the last ten months, I’m convinced that they have the potential for further growth. The instructor team is going to be doing everything it can to maximize their abilities and skills.”
Arai has rallying in the blood, as his father is former Subaru WRC and ERC ace Toshi Arai. Katsuta on the other hand started out in karting and single-seater racing, finishing second in the Japanese Formula 3 Championship with Toyota in 2013 before landing a place on the marque’s rally scheme. The pair are co-driven by experienced navigators Glenn MacNeall and Daniel Barritt.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmxZKSvWAAAuJZS.jpg
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Originally Posted by Simmi
Right, agreed.
So where is the announcement naming whoever as THE WRC sole supplier?
:crazy:
The article itself it a little stupid. He needs to decide better what his problem is.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
in one paragraph he notes how the last single tyre supplier provided us with Ott and Hayden, and then in another he says it would be a stupid idea.
Make up your mind, sir.
Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
And the balance is there: You do not like journalists, journalists don't like you.
What else is new?
And with all the trolling you do, you'd think you'd eventually get better at it... but, alas, no.