Aparantly a very big crash for Ogier
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Aparantly a very big crash for Ogier
As a big Novokov fan it's good to see him finding the speed again
Have an sneaking suspicion that Petter did that on purpose, could be all about making the latest tyre-choice tomorrow...Quote:
Originally Posted by focus206
ohhhh nooooooooooo.......Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeD
Lets hope the crew is ok.
Novikov said that the crew was out of the car - so should be OKQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I see that Wilson might finish the rally which Ogier not will do. It´s the end that counts.
Tänak stalled at the start - Campana is now in front of him
Sure, maybe he can still go for the win. :eek: :D :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
hmmm no...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
To finish first, first you must finish..........Quote:
Originally Posted by red bull
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Not a good start of Ogier... he should have taken it easy and score an easy win in his class...
Of course finding his limits is always nice especially now that he doesn't have any goals... but next year he must learn to control himself otherwise he is going to be another driver who will be crushed under the boot of the King...
Ogier's crash crew are confirmed OK but Matt Wilson suspects the car has rolled in 6th gear!
Dammmmd!!!!!!!!!!! He crash always in the last stage of the day or of the rally when he have no need to push !!!!!!!!!!
I didn´t say that. I just compare drivers ability to finish rallies.Quote:
Originally Posted by wwbroe
nothing more to prove.....he is better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wasted Talent
No time from Ogier in SS10 :confused:
Edit: oops you all gave the answer :mark:
No? So drivers who crashes out is the fastest? I reccon you have always disliked those "sick dogs" who crashes instead of making results. Wilson will, if he reaches finish, do a result, no matter what you say.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Yes a poor result outside of the top 10, which also counts for nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Not arguing, obviously Ogier is a better driver than Wilson, but the stick that Matt gets on here is patheticQuote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
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Here is the answer why he is better than Loeb to the WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by René
Let's see if the membres of this forum say that Ogier is not good because take risks and crashes (as said about Latvala).
Now P G Anderson lead the S2000 with the proton :)
Well between them I reckon that's a fair bit damage from this event............Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
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You know that it's the endless dilemma between those who make show and those who win....Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
It's good to discovery if people go to the stages to see the Loeb's or Latvala's.Quote:
Originally Posted by René
In my country, that is not France, people love to see the Latvalas's, Solberg's, Galli's., Ogier's, etc. And as you see, the WRC don't need many Loeb's. One is enough to ruin a party, as one Schumacher was enough to ruin F1 some years ago.
Great Rally to Ogier. On these stages he has some advantage, but he drove that Fabia S2000 on the limit.
Great fight between Sordo and Solberg that made us imagine how interesting could be the WRC without Loeb.
Pity for Ogier...
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...77086383_n.jpg
Or with Loeb, but in a different car.........Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
It's easy to see he has been pushing very hard right from the start. What an amazing run for Sèb until he crashed :(Quote:
Originally Posted by tolis
Yepp. That´s true. And he hasn´t reached the finish yet, as well. But I just want to point the fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
For sure he is worth better than be hanged out all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wasted Talent
If Loeb didn t exists,previous year would you be ok with Mikko champion?The sport wouldn t be ruined,and would be more interesting?Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
another photo from Ogier havarie
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Day 1 highlights Part1 : Loeb en tête devant Sordo et Solberg - RTBF Moteurs
Not bad. In 6th it could have been much worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by tolis
I can only see a S2000... or a Mini on gravel Rallyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by RAS007
Yes, Mikko in 2011, 2009 and 2008, Latvala in 2010, Gronholm in 2007 and 2006, Solberg in 2005 and 2004.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Tell me that was not different and more interesting than Loeb in 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004...
And on rallyes? How many differente winners could we had along all these years? And how many leaders could we had in each rally? Much more than we really had.
But lest's discuss Monte Carlo.
I hope snow tomorrow to create still more interest and casino.
Loen is secure in the lead, and only the gaming could EVENTUALLY put him out of the lead.
Armindo is doing a good rally for a newbie in Monte. Pitty the 4mins lost yesterday. He is showing that the Mini used in 2010 was really a bad car.
Despite Loeb's superiority on this rally (and previous houndreds...) it is an intersting rally, maybe also due to the fact that it is more than two months from the last WRC run.
Ogier had no reason whatsoever to crash, he had a safe lead. But we can take this as a learning phase for next season, which will be much more important for him than this one. I yust want to say that drivers like him (honestly there is yust one like him-JML), who are capable to beat Loeb on some occasions must learn sometimes also to step-up from throtle and not yust drive constantley on the limit, as the limit line is very thin...Even the greatest of all-Mr.Loeb knows when it has no sense to push.
So, no big drama for this Ogier's mistake, he would not win this rally anyway. I'm still very impatient over the duel Mikkelssen-Ogier.
After JML's off there is no interest except for the battle for the 2nd place. There is no battle either in PWRC or SWRC. :(
The rally is not represented by only a single driver "Loeb". We cannot reproach Loeb for being a good pilot. Rallying is sports and as in all sports, very often it is the best one which win.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
While Ogier is a good pilot, nobody says isn't. That his permanent attack is agreeable to see, it is good for show, but it does not make results.
If Sordo or Solberg go out by breaking for the benefit of the 2nd place, we can understand it and forgiveable. But when is always there is neither stake nor pressure it becomes in the long unpleasant, and somwhere a bit shame
¿Biggest mistake Citroen ever made: Get rid of Ogier?Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
I think the biggest was leave Sordo at the end of 2010.
Fast and very safe.
Now Citroen can be first and second in Mone return.