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13th July 2011, 16:53
JRodrigues

In the first tests, the Mini was very good in the jumps... And remember that in Finland the jumps aren't like in other places.
13th July 2011, 16:56
dimviii

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Originally Posted by vkangas

Landing after jumps definately looking not so good, but driving style has also an enormous effect on that so can't fully blame car for that.

+1 i dont see it ok too.Car seems to change direction after the landing due to less suspension stroke?Definetely its not so good like the ds3/fiesta landings.
13th July 2011, 17:02
Juha_Koo

I don't quite understand you all... What's the problem in Mini's jumping? Both crests were bit special, they had a shape which throws the car. Yes, it lifts the front a little bit but what's the problem with that? Latest Focus did exactly the same and it was the fastest car in Finland. The smoothness of the landing was very good, especially on that corner jump where they flew sideways. It came down in a very predictable way every single time and nothing uncertain in it, always glued immediately to the road and continued.
13th July 2011, 17:06
logic

Suspension travel was once a big thing , now damper control has taken over , the more accurate you can control the damper the better .
13th July 2011, 18:20
AMSS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juha_Koo

I don't quite understand you all... What's the problem in Mini's jumping? Both crests were bit special, they had a shape which throws the car. Yes, it lifts the front a little bit but what's the problem with that? Latest Focus did exactly the same and it was the fastest car in Finland. The smoothness of the landing was very good, especially on that corner jump where they flew sideways. It came down in a very predictable way every single time 2and nothing uncertain in it, always glued immediately to the road and continued.

I`ll have to agree with the others, seems as like the car is seeking a bit after the landings also on one video where there was a small bump in the road in a corner there was clear chassis movement that`s definately disturbing IMO and the landings are fine if we were 10-15years back in time. Now compared to the DS3 and Fiesta they seem to be landing like a cat whereas the Mini "crashes" down but mainting driveability however which at the end of the day is the most important thing.
We`ll better not to judge anything before finally seeing them live in a couple of weeks. Report back than...
13th July 2011, 22:26
noel157

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juha_Koo

I don't quite understand you all... What's the problem in Mini's jumping? Both crests were bit special, they had a shape which throws the car. Yes, it lifts the front a little bit but what's the problem with that? Latest Focus did exactly the same and it was the fastest car in Finland. The smoothness of the landing was very good, especially on that corner jump where they flew sideways. It came down in a very predictable way every single time and nothing uncertain in it, always glued immediately to the road and continued.

Juha, +100. Remember this -"the car is too ugly to be competitive", "the car is too tall", "suspension travel is too short", "Prodrive made a mess with the Subaru so same will happen with Mini" yada, yada, yada....
The cars is good, the team is good and the drivers are good.
13th July 2011, 22:41
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by noel157

Juha, +100. Remember this -"the car is too ugly to be competitive", "the car is too tall", "suspension travel is too short", "Prodrive made a mess with the Subaru so same will happen with Mini" yada, yada, yada....
The cars is good, the team is good and the drivers are good.

+1
13th July 2011, 23:00
Mintexmemory

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

+1

+2
14th July 2011, 02:06
julkki

But just relaying to expectations I was expecting very nervous car on the jumps and crests. I wasn't expecting some DS3/Fiesta killer but a car that could manage to lose maybe only 0.5 sec/km to Ford/Citroen. I was also at the test and gotta say that the 0,5sec/km difference to top teams isn't impossible. The car really looks stable. It doesn't have same kind of range on suspension like DS3/Fiesta but it's surprisingly good. The engine is lacking also some power to top teams also but the weather in the test was wet and heavy so the difference is hard to judge.
14th July 2011, 07:29
papar007

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimviii

Look again,its totaly different.

You're right!
16th July 2011, 21:00
Miika

Kimi´s Finland test in the news today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTOmOedagLU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0ZTsw0W5u0

Kimi would be happy if they could just finish the rally, but co-driver says that 6th place would be a realistic dream result for them.

And about next year, Kimi still says that all options, F1 included, are still available and that he could go anywhere he likes, but I suspect he is saying that just to keep the buzz going and to sell a few more of his signature caps. But he also said somewhere that doing rally and Nascar at the same time is tiring so maybe he will focus on something next year, who knows.
16th July 2011, 21:13
N.O.T

a realistic solution for mr icecube

UNEMPLOYMENT PENSION
16th July 2011, 21:59
JRodrigues

But that's getting Finland to the same situation as Greece.. Too much unemployment pensioners....
16th July 2011, 23:45
Tomi

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Originally Posted by JRodrigues

But that's getting Finland to the same situation as Greece.. Too much unemployment pensioners....

But no dead who get pension sofar, lol.
17th July 2011, 18:21
Rallisauna

Kimi testing in Finland

Altought the temperature reached +25 degrees today in Central Finland, the small gravel road in Luhanka was covered with thick ice layer - The Iceman had arrived:
https://picasaweb.google.com/SPKolsi...gInFinland2011
17th July 2011, 18:53
Barreis

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Originally Posted by Rallisauna

Altought the temperature reached +25 degrees today in Central Finland, the small gravel road in Luhanka was covered with thick ice layer - The Iceman had arrived:
https://picasaweb.google.com/SPKolsi...gInFinland2011

White colour on the car - great.
17th July 2011, 20:22
wildsir

sponsors don't pay to sponsor tests, so white is ok
17th July 2011, 20:37
N.O.T

what sponsors ??
17th July 2011, 21:23
wildsir

Ok, in the case if kimi, he can run in pink if he wants
19th July 2011, 15:49
HarriK

JML and Ford Fiesta WRC first tests in Finland:

http://harrinkuvat.1g.fi/kuvat/Rallikuvat/2011/NORF_tests/JML_Kavala/?action=slideshow
19th July 2011, 17:26
Barreis

Now it's his turn to go off.
19th July 2011, 18:02
Juha_Koo

Ford started tests today. Jari-Matti for two days and then Mikko takes over for two days.

Here are

My photos: PHOTOS

My video: VIDEO
19th July 2011, 21:48
Tomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarriK

JML and Ford Fiesta WRC first tests in Finland:

JML_Kavala

Wonder how they have got good ol' Piironen there :)
19th July 2011, 21:54
Daniel

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Originally Posted by Juha_Koo

Mini tested today with Sordo (and Meeke a bit). Day 2 proved successful, even though the weather was very rainy at times. Nice jumps. :)

Nonetheless, here is my short video: VIDEO
And small photo gallery: PHOTOS

I have to say, I was very very surprised by Mini... Especially the suspension, it looked absolutely fabulous! Sordo commented it being even better than C4 on landings. Really, they have progressed a lot with the suspension. Engine seems to lack some power but otherwise it is starting look like a very nice package. I fell in love with it! ;)

Hmmm I think Ford are ****ed. The way that car flies reminds me of watching the 206 WRC testing in Australia and realising just how good it was going to be.
19th July 2011, 22:17
Rallyper

So they were testing at NORF Kavala stage in 2010?
19th July 2011, 22:20
Daniel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juha_Koo

I don't quite understand you all... What's the problem in Mini's jumping? Both crests were bit special, they had a shape which throws the car. Yes, it lifts the front a little bit but what's the problem with that? Latest Focus did exactly the same and it was the fastest car in Finland. The smoothness of the landing was very good, especially on that corner jump where they flew sideways. It came down in a very predictable way every single time and nothing uncertain in it, always glued immediately to the road and continued.

I agree, I think the Mini looks a very good jumper.
19th July 2011, 23:43
Steve Boyd

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I agree, I think the Mini looks a very good jumper.

I thought the Mini was a skirt . . . . . though I've seen some Mini dresses that weren't much bigger than a jumper!
(Sorry - couldn't resist!)
20th July 2011, 00:33
janvanvurpa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Boyd

I thought the Mini was a skirt . . . . . though I've seen some Mini dresses that weren't much bigger than a jumper!
(Sorry - couldn't resist!)

Pics or ban. 8)
20th July 2011, 09:22
Fly

Ford wanted Neuville to test the Fiesta at the end of June but PSA (Quesnel?) refused. Good news (seat at Citroen within 2 years) or bad news (missed opportunity)???
20th July 2011, 09:29
N.O.T

probably nothing of the two...
20th July 2011, 09:40
tfp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barreis

Now it's his turn to go off.

And follow Ogier into the hedge.
20th July 2011, 12:15
N.O.T

I think wishing for someone to crash should be banable in a motorsport forum...
20th July 2011, 14:24
OldF

JML NORF test.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUTHWmfZ7mY
20th July 2011, 15:59
darkstar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fly

Ford wanted Neuville to test the Fiesta at the end of June but PSA (Quesnel?) refused. Good news (seat at Citroen within 2 years) or bad news (missed opportunity)???

thats a good question. if loeb might go to vw or retire from rallyeing next time he might get a chance from citroen, but will be always 2nd driver behind ogier then.(like duval was with loeb). if he could show up with the ford a bit...who know´s, maybe they would kick out hirvonen then. but if i was vw i also would have an eye on him, in my opinion he´s pretty mutch the biggest talent at the moment.
20th July 2011, 16:39
wwbroe

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Originally Posted by darkstar

thats a good question. if loeb might go to vw or retire from rallyeing next time he might get a chance from citroen, but will be always 2nd driver behind ogier then.(like duval was with loeb). if he could show up with the ford a bit...who know´s, maybe they would kick out hirvonen then. but if i was vw i also would have an eye on him, in my opinion he´s pretty mutch the biggest talent at the moment.

Well, who says they don't have an eye on him allready. At least that is what i was told some weeks ago. I don't know for sure that there is truth in it, let's wait and see. :D
20th July 2011, 16:46
tfp

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

I think wishing for someone to crash should be banable in a motorsport forum...

:up: Fair play, I take back my last comment.
20th July 2011, 17:28
OldF

It’s the only way to know who’s the fastest.
20th July 2011, 20:09
Juha_Koo

Sorry, took a little longer today. Long day, about eleven hours on the move due to tests, walking several kilometres back and forth. But still, very nice day. :)

Here's my video of JML's second test day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWTIxREKX-M
21st July 2011, 07:24
pete c

mmm nice video, car lands off the jumps so nicely and Jarri Mattti looked fast, hope luck runs his way in Finland
21st July 2011, 08:31
Miika

Nice action there, will be interesting to see how differently the three cars behave jumping off the same jumps and bumps in the competition.

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