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26th January 2013, 17:02
BleAivano

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Originally Posted by Vargåsen

But I dont's think it's necessary with cameras in every corner. Like on the sprint today, 3-4 cameras is sufficient on a
stage in my opinion, it doesn't matter if it's 7 km or 40 km. It's exciting with an image of an empty road with a clock ticking
waiting for the car as well. The most important thing is to have the timing functional, today that part wasn't perfect.

I agree that there is no need for a camera in every bend but I think on a stage like Vargåsen which about 25km
I think maybe 5 cameras would be minimum. I also agree with what say about the fixed camera position and the clock.

However in the end if you have 5,6, or 7 cameras isn't a big difference. If you want a camera in the middle of the stage,
you still need to put a cable out to it. That is 12km of cable. Then you could just as well put a camera or two in between.
26th January 2013, 17:37
EightGear

Remember France last year? All stages live. Onboard, helicopters and one fixed camera in the middle of the stages. 2 or 3 more cameras would have been better, but other than that is was excellent.

And these were all stages, imagine just 1 or 2 stages shown each day of a rally. France proved (not just last year but also in 2011!!) it is absolutely possible.
26th January 2013, 18:25
Hartusvuori

Quote:

Originally Posted by EightGear

Remember France last year? All stages live. Onboard, helicopters and one fixed camera in the middle of the stages. 2 or 3 more cameras would have been better, but other than that is was excellent.

And these were all stages, imagine just 1 or 2 stages shown each day of a rally. France proved (not just last year but also in 2011!!) it is absolutely possible.

When you take rally to forests like in Sweden or Finland, helicopter isn't anymore best for filming. With handful of fixed cameras and helicopter it of course could be possible, but - it's WRC. With forum(s), Twitter, Facebooks, friends and WRR, we don't really need one-place-for-all live tv, now do we.
26th January 2013, 19:11
EightGear

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

When you take rally to forests like in Sweden or Finland, helicopter isn't anymore best for filming. With handful of fixed cameras and helicopter it of course could be possible, but - it's WRC. With forum(s), Twitter, Facebooks, friends and WRR, we don't really need one-place-for-all live tv, now do we.

We don't, but to make the sport more popular it is kind of vital. You are from Finland so things related to rallying are bit more positive there I'd guess. :D
26th January 2013, 21:18
Hartusvuori

Quote:

Originally Posted by EightGear

You are from Finland so things related to rallying are bit more positive there I'd guess. :D

Hmm... let's see. I don't use paychannels, so let's see what I get from free-from-all channels.

WRC: 10 minutes with few shots and interviews aired around 10.30PM, mostly commercials. 30 minute end of day reviews aired between 0.30-3.00 AM. Not very prime time, and if you want to record it, put some extra because it always starts late. Last year they showed one-hour review of each rally about a week after the event on Saturday midday (again, not prime time). I trusted that if I remembered it. From MTV3 pay channel I think there's some extra or at least better broadcasting times.

FRC: 30 minute review a week after the event.
IRC/ERC: Nothing. (Few years ago one sports channel aired Eurosport reviews some 1-2 months after the event.)
F-Cup: Nothing for free.
Rallysprints: Nothing?
Rallycross: Nothing?

So, I watch a rallysprint from Swedish forests anytime when broadcasted online :-) Rallying is truly being pushed to the marginal here as well.

And of course I was being sarcastic in my previous post. Of course WRC needs a world-class television production.
26th January 2013, 21:49
Fly_Half

Could one of my Scandinavian friends assist me please? SS17 Mitandersfors is run at 8am on Sunday - will it be light by then? I intend going to the fast left hander just before the finish, and as the stage is approx 30km long I'm guessing the cars will take around 20 minutes to arrive?

The reason I ask is I'm a photographer, and need to know the light levels, if it's too dark it'll be pointless going there!
26th January 2013, 21:55
A FONDO

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

Of course WRC needs a world-class television production.

In the present days of popularity crysis, the WRC needs a world class footage broadcasted on the internet. Because:

1. Propaganda - all WRC fans around the world have an internet connection, but not all of them have access to that particular channel. Also, in internet you can watch recorded footage at any time you want, while timeshift for TV is not that widespread.
2. Advertising - websites measure more precisely the number of people who have opened the page and seen the commercials.
26th January 2013, 23:09
ruesluporp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fly_Half

Could one of my Scandinavian friends assist me please? SS17 Mitandersfors is run at 8am on Sunday - will it be light by then? I intend going to the fast left hander just before the finish, and as the stage is approx 30km long I'm guessing the cars will take around 20 minutes to arrive?

The reason I ask is I'm a photographer, and need to know the light levels, if it's too dark it'll be pointless going there!

I am not a scandinavian, but my tablet's applications gave me these informations:
- the sun will be low on the horizon (1.1°) at 8:20 am
- there are trees on the side of the road and that will give unfortunatly less light for your photos

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/600702photo1.jpg
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/259972photo.jpg
26th January 2013, 23:15
hari

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fly_Half

Could one of my Scandinavian friends assist me please? SS17 Mitandersfors is run at 8am on Sunday - will it be light by then? I intend going to the fast left hander just before the finish, and as the stage is approx 30km long I'm guessing the cars will take around 20 minutes to arrive?

The reason I ask is I'm a photographer, and need to know the light levels, if it's too dark it'll be pointless going there!

Here is a pic taken at the stage last year at 07:58.

http://www.ir7.at/swe12_1.jpg

The stage started at 08:04 last year. Light was no problem at the place about 20 kms into the stage, but it is more open area than at the finish.

http://www.ir7.at/swe12_2.jpg

Last years best time was 14:13 min.
27th January 2013, 01:09
Kielder

I'm looking forward to seeing him in Rally Sweden behind the wheel of a WRC... :eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=XWGITAcqEQQ

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